***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[KChiefs1]

Tom Hanks on SNL.

Can someone embed this for me since quite a few on here get fanatical about it.


https://youtu.be/Kol7RE3wCNA

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

In college I ate healthy by having a combination pizza 4 times a week.

I don’t know if I ever had any other veggies.

One of the greatest moments in college is when I learned Pizza Hut and Dominos started accepting the school's food plan cards.... I could put down a medium pizza with no problem and wouldn't gain an ounce of weight.

[ghak99]

There's even bigger rumblings coming out of the packing industry. Look for two more of the big ones to make announcements soon. If 25% of the pork lines are at full stop for any length of time, people will notice.

There are still no bids at all for live cattle right now in large sectors of the country. There's only one thing that happens to finished steers, they die. One way or the other. If they don't get the chain under control soon things will get ugly. Cattle of all ages have been backed way off in an attempt to reign things in from the supply side, but it's not a train that just stops over night without serious consequences. Pack owned cattle are being pulled forward while independents are left holding their own.

You're also going to start seeing some nasty headlines and mass euthanasia claims if reporters are brave enough to dig into it. Not to mention the bankruptcies that will follow as contract clauses get invoked.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

It's a shame they didnt all die

Was over 400 people at the party, apparently.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by ghak99

There's even bigger rumblings coming out of the packing industry. Look for two more of the big ones to make announcements soon. If 25% of the pork lines are at full stop for any length of time, people will notice.

There are still no bids at all for live cattle right now in large sectors of the country. There's only one thing that happens to finished steers, they die. One way or the other. If they don't get the chain under control soon things will get ugly. Cattle of all ages have been backed way off in an attempt to reign things in from the supply side, but it's not a train that just stops over night without serious consequences. Pack owned cattle are being pulled forward while independents are left holding their own.

You're also going to start seeing some nasty headlines and mass euthanasia claims if reporters are brave enough to dig into it. Not to mention the bankruptcies that will follow as contract clauses get invoked.

So is it the workers getting sick or what’s causing all this?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Was over 400 people at the party, apparently.

Not possible. Eveyone is social distancing and thus the reason the models were trash.

[BigCatDaddy]

A few here have argued for something more like this.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/epide...aign=mattwalsh

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by O.city

So is it the workers getting sick or what’s causing all this?

Yes. One just discovered ~250 infected. Two more know they have a problem, but just just haven't went public with how bad it is yet. Think of it as one big funnel. Those workers are in control of the final flow. If they fail, shit hits the fan in a massive way.

If you're familiar with how many of the line working immigrants often live, it's easy to see that the spread can't be stopped even if the companies go balls to the walls on their grounds. No amount of tents in the parking lots for lunch spacing, fever tests on the way in, locker room separation, or break room divider panels can control it when at the end of the day they all go home together.

Some of the really small and specialty plants are even considering quarantining a population, shutting down completely for cleaning, and then restaffing with the controlled population remaining in isolation. Obviously this doesn't scale with large plants and unions.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Yes. One just discovered ~250 infected. Two more know they have a problem, but just just haven't went public with how bad it is yet. Think of it as one big funnel. Those workers are in control of the final flow. If they fail, shit hits the fan in a massive way.

If you're familiar with how many of the line working immigrants often live, it's easy to see that the spread can't be stopped even if the companies go balls to the walls on their grounds. No amount of tents in the parking lots for lunch spacing, fever tests on the way in, locker room separation, or break room divider panels can control it when at the end of the day they all go home together.

Some of the really small and specialty plants are even considering quarantining a population, shutting down completely for cleaning, and then restaffing with the controlled population remaining in isolation. Obviously this doesn't scale with large plants and unions.

What’s the end game? Lotta meat shortages incoming?

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by ghak99

You're also going to start seeing some nasty headlines and mass euthanasia claims if reporters are brave enough to dig into it. Not to mention the bankruptcies that will follow as contract clauses get invoked.

This happened en masse during The Great Depression. It’s easy to criticize moves like this when we’re in the comforts of a modern living and a good economy. We do not have that luxury right now.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

This happened en masse during The Great Depression. It’s easy to criticize moves like this when we’re in the comforts of a modern living and a good economy. We do not have that luxury right now.

So basically we’re gonna have a lot of meat but no one to process it?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by O.city

So basically we’re gonna have a lot of meat but no one to process it?

Sounds like my dating life RN

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by O.city

What’s the end game? Lotta meat shortages incoming?

It's not to the point of being a big shortage yet, but if you like grilling/smoking regularly and on your own schedule I would suggest getting the quality you're used to in your freezer soon.

Some of these outbreaks aren't just in the processing plants though. They're also in the packaging side of things where pizzas, frozen foods, and prepared meals are created.

[JakeF]

I thought my post was just about the coronavirus for the people down south.

My Bad, won't do it again.

[TLO]

I've had 1.5 cigarettes today. It was cold as balls outside so I didn't even feel like finishing the second one.

I think I'm feeling some withdrawal - but I'm doing ok. I'm a little shaky. Goal for today is 5 or less.