Call Your Shot: Who’s the Chiefs first selection in the 2020 Draft

[staylor26]

I’m going with Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC Hawks

Who's the #1 offensive player you guys would be okay with at 32?

That will realistically be there?

1. Swift
2. Aiyuk
3. Reagor
4. Ruiz

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Who’s your current top 5 guys?

I think my final one is:

1. Queen
2. Murray
3. Fulton
4. Gladney
5. Epenesa

1a Queen
1b Delpit
3. Epenesa
4. Dobbins
5. Swift

Queen presents the Chiefs with the three down linebacker that they’ve tried to find over the past couple drafts but were never in position to get the guy they wanted. My one concern with Queen is his lack of experience and limited film, but the consensus seems to be he is regarded as a clean prospect and will be a plug and play guy in the middle of some team’s defense.

I think back to 2006 when Tamba Hali was drafted, and a lot of Chiefs fans were lukewarm on that pick as Jared Allen was coming into prominence and some called the selection a luxury. I remember having watched a lot of Tamba‘s game film and thinking how consistent of a player he was and that he was steadily productive and a high effort/character guy. The reason I bring this up is because I feel the same way about Delpit. Watching LSU play the past couple years, he has arguably been their most consistent defender making big plays, showing great versatility and by all accounts is lauded for his leadership and accountability on the field. A lot of people knocked his tackling ability in 2018, but he put some of those concerns to rest this season. I think he checks off a lot of boxes that Steve Spagnuolo looks for in his secondary players. The film does not lie.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Dude got hurt on a QB sneak. Just exactly what kind of player are you going to add that prevents that?

Ultimately you can't team-build out of fear. The best OTs in the league get beat from time to time - and far more often when DL's get to pin their ears back and attack. Your quarterback is gonna get hit. A lot. But ultimately both Mahomes, his defense and his coaching staff can do more to prevent that than any single player added to the line can (unless said player is replacing Cam Erving, who was trash).

And lets not keep acting like Mahomes had dogshit protection otherwise. Reiter's a horrifying run blocker but he's an asset in pass pro. Wylie was a bad run blocker but again, a solid to good pass blocker. LDT....well LDT kinda sucked, but if he's that bad again, Remmers was a quality pass-blocking OT who should be even better on the interior. Rankins can probably play and ultimately this staff has flat out built dudes like Wylie into quality pass blockers.

Mahomes wasn't getting poor protection last year apart from when Fisher went down. Overreacting and reaching for IOLs with the idea that you're somehow going to build him an impenetrable line is just not gonna help matters.

If Kareem Hunt was there we wouldn't have this discussion, Reid has film on what the offense looks like with an average RB playing with Mahomes and an elite one.

It's situational awareness how well the offense functioned when a young Future HOFER worked with the tools available to succeed. Mahomes' injury is something he has to deal with his whole career.

Patrick did play with dogshit protection because Wylie was good enough to get himself benched in favor of Wisniewski and Reiter and LDT got their shit pushed in that caused the injury to occur with linemen landing on his right leg while he was hobbling around with a left ankle sprain. If Mahomes had better security and options like the 2018 season he wouldn't have been injured during 2019.

Concerning the run attack, if defenses respected the run that would give Mahomes the ability to exploit it instead of the opposition dropping into zone most of game because the opposition wasn't terrified by the oft injured Damien,decrepit fumbling machine McCoy, and Thompson who's too daft and small to execute and understand the offense



There's a reason why KC interviewed Dobbins multiple times this offseason. My dark horse pick is OT Josh Jones in the draft

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KC Hawks

Who's the #1 offensive player you guys would be okay with at 32?

Josh Jones?

I dunno man, that's a tough nut. Justin Jefferson? He may not be as high a ceiling guy as some, but with Hill here, Jefferson could just be a fantastic option alongside him. I see a lot of what I like in Aiyuk but with just a little more speed.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Josh Jones?

I dunno man, that's a tough nut. Justin Jefferson? He may not be as high a ceiling guy as some, but with Hill here, Jefferson could just be a fantastic option alongside him. I see a lot of what I like in Aiyuk but with just a little more speed.

This question illustrates why a trade back would be in the Chiefs best interest because they could get guys like Jefferson and Akers in Round Two while adding other positions of need with the additional picks acquired in a trade.

It's a damn shame the Chiefs are heading into this particular draft with only 5 picks.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This question illustrates why a trade back would be in the Chiefs best interest because they could get guys like Jefferson and Akers in Round Two while adding other positions of need with the additional picks acquired in a trade.

It's a damn shame the Chiefs are heading into this particular draft with only 5 picks.

Yeah. But 5 picks and 1 Lombardi beats what 31 other teams have.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This question illustrates why a trade back would be in the Chiefs best interest because they could get guys like Jefferson and Akers in Round Two while adding other positions of need with the additional picks acquired in a trade.

It's a damn shame the Chiefs are heading into this particular draft with only 5 picks.

Justin Jefferson? That guy is going in the first round for sure. He won’t even be there at #32.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Because he's not an elite NFL RB. He's not even the best RB in this draft and i wouldn't be surprised to see him slide to the 3rd.

I don't agree about Dobbins either. He's not the best for this offense.

Watch Clyde Edwards Helaire.

I get flashbacks of Ladanian Tomlinson.

He has great feet that are always churning.

Outstanding patience. Great vision. Dude has a knack for picking his spot and finding his hole.

And when he hits the hole the man has lightning quick start/stop acceleration.

You'll watch him get skinny and then burst through a hole and absolutely gobble up yards.

He caught 50 passes for LSU while rushing for over 1,400 yards at 6.6 YPC.

AND the icing on the cake: He has almost no mileage on him.

This dude is the ideal back for K.C and IS a better back than Swift.

When I watch Helaire I see Sproles 2.0 but he does have that vision and decisiveness. The guy that reminds me most of Tomlinson, from size to running style, is Dobbins. You're right, the thing that made Tomlinson great was never that he was going to juke you but that he was just going to see the hole faster than you and hit that hole at top speed and you weren't going to stop him. I see that mentality with both guys but I have to say I see alot more in Dobbins than I do in Helaire.

I'm never a fan of RB in the 1st but if Dobbins slides even remotely close to trading up range in round 2, I'm all about it. I don't think Helaire is the top back but I'd consider it a strong race for 3 between him and Akers. I just can't put him about Dobbins and Swift. I'd definitely be on board with your boy at 63 though.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Josh Jones?

I dunno man, that's a tough nut. Justin Jefferson? He may not be as high a ceiling guy as some, but with Hill here, Jefferson could just be a fantastic option alongside him. I see a lot of what I like in Aiyuk but with just a little more speed.

How about “top 15 player in any other draft” (according to RunKC) Ezra Cleveland?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This question illustrates why a trade back would be in the Chiefs best interest because they could get guys like Jefferson and Akers in Round Two while adding other positions of need with the additional picks acquired in a trade.

It's a damn shame the Chiefs are heading into this particular draft with only 5 picks.

Probably early for Van Jefferson. No way in hell Justin Jefferson is there at 32 much less the second.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by staylor26

How about “top 15 player in any other draft” (according to RunKC) Ezra Cleveland?

I think Run is realistic on that statement. He's a good LT prospect. Reminds me of Fisher coming out. Athletic as **** but lacking strength. He'll get there and when he does I think he'll be really solid. If that's the direction Veach went, I wouldn't be disappointed with it.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Gladney and Fulton are pretty much interchangeable for me. If they were both in the board it would be a tough decision.

You like them better than Johnson and Diggs, or you just don't think Johnson and/or Diggs will still be on the board when we pick?

I like Gladney and Fuller - especially Gladney - but I like both Johnson and Diggs a little better.

The great news is, if Veach wants to he's going to get a good CB. Maybe more than one. Guys like Amik Robertson might still be there in the 3rd. I like Javaris Davis too. Might even be able to get a guy like that in the 4th or 5th.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I think Run is realistic on that statement. He's a good LT prospect. Reminds me of Fisher coming out. Athletic as **** but lacking strength. He'll get there and when he does I think he'll be really solid. If that's the direction Veach went, I wouldn't be disappointed with it.

I think it’s a joke. I don’t care how much athleticism that guy has, I don’t see a top 15 player.

This is very contradictory of your take on Willie Gay, who at least flashed against the best of the best.

If Ezra Cleveland is a top 15 player in malt drafts, then Willie Gay should be a 1st.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

You like them better than Johnson and Diggs, or you just don't think Johnson and Diggs will still be on the board when we pick?

I like Gladney and Fuller - especially Gladney - but I like both Johnson and Diggs a little better.

The great news is, if Veach wants to he's going to get a good CB. Maybe more than one. Guys like Amik Robertson might still be there in the 3rd. I like Javaris Davis too. Might even be able to get a guy like that in the 4th or 5th.

I like them better than Johnson and Diggs, though Johnson isn’t far behind.

Diggs is a guy that I love/hate. He could be anywhere from 4-7 in my rankings. I just haven’t seen enough tape.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Justin Jefferson? That guy is going in the first round for sure. He won’t even be there at #32.

Maybe. I wouldn't rule out anyone at this point, other than guys that were injured and haven't had a physical.