***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

I've gotten carry-out quite a bit on weekends and some places are packed.

A local Thai restaurant has had an hour+ wait the 2 times I ordered, and the parking lot was jammed with cars.

I tried calling Garozzos this weekend and they said its not even worth it to call the day you want the food, they are maxing out on orders days before.

But a lesser known Italian place had everything ready in 20 minutes and the woman who brought it out acted very appreciative of the order.

I actually got Garzzo's Saturday night with no issue. Took an hour but nonetheless. Now, the night before we got Mi Ranchito and talk about nuts!!!

[mr. tegu]

Home Depot and Menards have been packed each time I’ve been. In general way busier than Hy-Vee.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Home Depot and Menards have been packed each time I’ve been. In general way busier than Hy-Vee.

Went to Best Buy Saturday morning and decided to stop by Home Depot on the way back. Didn't even bother pulling into the parking lot......

[Marcellus]

Updated model shows missouri with an estimated 330 deaths by August but we are still coming below their trends.

[Ghost of Maslowski]

5:05 - Can Far-UVC Disinfect Public Spaces?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Updated model shows missouri with an estimated 330 deaths by August but we are still coming below their trends.

So that's about 130ish more deaths over the next 3+months.....

[O.city]

Is that with the stay at home orders and such in place for that entire time?

[The Iron Chief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

What industries are profiting? Gaming cause its up?

The Red lobster that I manage currently has 110 employees on furlough.
Our store normally serves approx 3,400 guests a week.
We are of course more the eat in type store than the take out type(pizza,wings,munchies)
So how have we faired?

Corporate has given us strict restrictions on how many hourlies to allow back.
Using the managers(salary) to work the majority of the day.
Three hourlies a day are allowed where there would normally be 40+ on.
So that takes care of our labor.
Then you have the operation Costs Electric,Rent,product etc..

With the coming of the age of delivery services Door dash,Grub Hub,Uber eats..and many small time operations it has helped push the take out business even for a chain like ours.
With Red Lobster paying the delivery Fee it has driven our take out business to a ridiculous height above our norm.

However we are not making a profit.
Just about breaking even.

This may change with the stimulus checks arriving.
The second day after the checks start coming our orders tripled.
Personally I shook my head thinking really?!
The check is supposed to go towards Bills or grocery shopping...not splurging on Lobster take out for Gods sake.

To put our total order numbers into perspective.
On a Saturday:
Pre Virus event 900-1000 Guests.
After Dining in closure Take out only 200.
Take out after Stimulus checks 600.
How long will the Stimulus check wave be good for? Who knows.
Am I thankful for the business? Sure.. should people be spending the money on more important things?
Who am I to say.

My family loves to cook homemade food but at least once a week or twice we do Take out for a treat.

So as far as restaurants go if you were a strong take out venue before(Pizzeria) your doing Great now in fact better than ever.
The Bigger chains do not want to be that chain to bow out first you want to save face with the public.
Better to barely make a profit or none at at all for the time being.
To be the first major chain to close would leave a black eye.
But I guarantee you if a couple announce national shut downs many others would fall in line.
And yes you may live near a Slow store that has already closed.
There are Slow Red Lobsters that made the call to close.
But I mean nationally/word wide closure.

If your not known to be a take out joint your barely paying the Bills.
The stimulus ride will shoot its load and be done.

Gaming,Streaming services,Home Depot,Lowes...some others I'm sure have profited but far to few to count.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Is that with the stay at home orders and such in place for that entire time?

No way that can be. There is not any way this lock down goes past mid-May assuming things keep going the way they are.

You will absolutely destroy the economy otherwise.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by notorious

repost

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No way that can be. There is not any way this lock down goes past mid-May assuming things keep going the way they are.

You will absolutely destroy the economy otherwise.

I don't disagree.

It seems like we've found ourselves between a rock and a hard place.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't disagree.

It seems like we've found ourselves between a rock and a hard place.

Makes you want to run for Governor doesn't it

A hell of a spot to be in.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Economy starting to open up in locations....this is going to get [more] interesting...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Makes you want to run for Governor doesn't it

A hell of a spot to be in.

After this whole fiasco, i do think we need to strongly push for competent people in positions of power.

So.....no, i would not be considering a run.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Based on what?

How resilient our economy has always been and how creative some of these restaurant entrepreneurs are. I have no doubt in my mind most will bounce back.