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[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Adding an extra playoff team to each conference should make the regular season even more important to teams on the edge of making the playoffs.

Defensively, Tampa is near elite. They have some excellent perimeter weapons on offense and an excellent head coach and defensive coordinator.

Their offensive line is their Achilles heel, although they have an opportunity to upgrade because they're picking early enough in Round 1. If they can come to terms with Shaq Barrett before July 15th, they'll have an opportunity to trade for some offensive lineman as well, maybe even Thuney.

They're close.

The Bucs were an average defense the second half of the year. Barrett was a complete fluke, he won't get double digit sacks this upcoming season. The young DB's will ALL take a big step back from the end of the season. This Buccaneers team it anywhere close to being ready for a playoff run. Bad offense with an old rag armed QB, no running game, offensive line is shit, they have 2 legit weapons everyone else on the offense is crap and outside of Vita Vea they have nothing on the front 7. Devin White is fast, but is still too dumb to not blow every gap assignment in front of him, JPP is old and will come to halt here in 2020 and none of their DB's are good enough to make up for the linebackers sucking (except Lavonte David, he is a decent player). In other words the Buccaneers are as far off from the Superbowl as an 8-8/7-9 team can be.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

The Bucs were an average defense the second half of the year. Barrett was a complete fluke, he won't get double digit sacks this upcoming season. The young DB's will ALL take a big step back from the end of the season. This Buccaneers team it anywhere close to being ready for a playoff run. Bad offense with an old rag armed QB, no running game, offensive line is shit, they have 2 legit weapons everyone else on the offense is crap and outside of Vita Vea they have nothing on the front 7. Devin White is fast, but is still too dumb to not blow every gap assignment in front of him, JPP is old and will come to halt here in 2020 and none of their DB's are good enough to make up for the linebackers sucking (except Lavonte David, he is a decent player). In other words the Buccaneers are as far off from the Superbowl as an 8-8/7-9 team can be.

Agreed

Brady throwing to Goodwin, Evan's, and Gronk is compelling. But it's got nothing on KC returning all it's fire power. Young fire power at that.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Agreed

Brady throwing to Goodwin, Evan's, and Gronk is compelling. But it's got nothing on KC returning all it's fire power. Young fire power at that.

I would say that the Buccaneers are better than the Chiefs at WR and TE but far inferior at QB at this point, which is why they will struggle to get to 8 wins.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

I would say that the Buccaneers are better than the Chiefs at WR and TE but far inferior at QB at this point, which is why they will struggle to get to 8 wins.

Nah.

That's probably an 11-5, NFL Divisional round team.

Depends how much COVID impacts the ability for the offense to gel.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

Nah.

That's probably an 11-5, NFL Divisional round team.

Depends how much COVID impacts the ability for the offense to gel.

Ehh Brady is going to hit a wall sometime around week 8 and he will be Manning at the end of his career. The difference is the Buccaneers don't have that defense.

[luv]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

I would say that the Buccaneers are better than the Chiefs at WR and TE but far inferior at QB at this point, which is why they will struggle to get to 8 wins.

Please explain your reasoning.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by luv

Please explain your reasoning.

They're #2 WR is better, the Hill Evans thing is I'm gonna say push, just completely different players but both dominant at what they do.

Their TE is not better, but now they basically have a backup TE that is starter quality so they don't have the elite guy that Kelce is but their depth is better.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

I would say that the Buccaneers are better than the Chiefs at WR and TE but far inferior at QB at this point, which is why they will struggle to get to 8 wins.

Mike Evans is incredible and Godwin really turned up this past season, but after that they've got no depth. IIRC, they lost Perriman (and he kinda sucked anyway).

It's essentially Hill, Watkins, Hardman and Robinson vs Evans and Godwin.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Mike Evans is incredible and Godwin really turned up this past season, but after that they've got no depth. IIRC, they lost Perriman (and he kinda sucked anyway).

It's essentially Hill, Watkins, Hardman and Robinson vs Evans and Godwin.

Godwin is better than the 3 guys you mentioned. I believe they will end up with one of the top receivers in the draft.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Godwin is better than the 3 guys you mentioned. I believe they will end up with one of the top receivers in the draft.

If they do then I'd consider it, but at present? It's hard to argue Bucs receivers over Chiefs.

Who even is their third WR right now anyway?

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

If they do then I'd consider it, but at present? It's hard to argue Bucs receivers over Chiefs.

Who even is there third WR right now anyway?

I would also add that the QB’s ability plays into what you get out of your weapons.

Mahomes would get more out of shit weapons than Brady would. Give both elite weapons, and the same holds true.