Rod Woodson is the best #10 pick since the merger

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell

Patrick Mahomes will someday be on the Mount Rushmore of QB's, yep, he'll join Tom. Joe and Peyton , BUT.........as of right now we cannot compare his three/actually two seasons to what Rod Woodson did in his 17 years career.

The guy was a six time All Pro, 11 time pro bowler, is on the all time 100 best players list.

He had 71 INTS which is the third most in NFL history. He returned 12 of them to score. He also returned 4 kicks/punts to score.

When talking QB's Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Bret Favre, Dan Marino, will be in the discussion while Mahomes will someday be in there with them......someday.

Rod Woodson is already considered to be the greatest defensive back ever, or in that discussion.

I love rod woodson, but I’d take Mahomes no questions asked. Mahomes can will a team to Super Bowl victory. Woodson was great, but I don’t recall him being the primary reason a team won the sb.

How many sb victories did he have in those 17 years? How many NFL MVP awards? How many SB MVPs?

[Ubeja Vontell]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I love rod woodson, but I’d take Mahomes no questions asked. Mahomes can will a team to Super Bowl victory. Woodson was great, but I don’t recall him being the primary reason a team won the sb.

How many sb victories did he have in those 17 years? How many NFL MVP awards? How many SB MVPs?

Trent Dilfer won a SB, Joe Flacco won a SB, Cam Newton was an NFL MVP.

Bottom line is Mahomes simply hasn't had enought time to compete with a great great player with 17 years of greatness.

Mahomes is the best QB I have ever seen with just three NFL seasons, but that just isn't long enought to trump the greatness of Rod Woodson.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell

Trent Dilfer won a SB, Joe Flacco won a SB, Cam Newton was an NFL MVP.

Bottom line is Mahomes simply hasn't had enought time to compete with a great great player with 17 years of greatness.

Mahomes is the best QB I have ever seen with just three NFL seasons, but that just isn't long enought to trump the greatness of Rod Woodson.

So you would take Woodson over Mahomes if both were on the board at number 10?

[Ubeja Vontell]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

So you would take Woodson over Mahomes if both were on the board at number 10?

You know it doesn't work that way, it's about what do we need a QB or a DB.

Woodson the only HOFer in that 1987 first round

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell

You know it doesn't work that way, it's about what do we need a QB or a DB.

Woodson the only HOFer in that 1987 first round

I would take Mahomes if I already had prime Montana, Brady, and Manning on my roster at the same time all on league minimum contracts

[Easy 6]

Woodson was incredible, right there with Lott and Butkus and anyone else you can think of in the pantheon

He wasn’t a corner, or a safety... Rod Woodson was a football player

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Woodson was incredible, right there with Lott and Butkus and anyone else you can think of in the pantheon

He wasn’t a corner, or a safety... Rod Woodson was a football player

Woodson is among the very best football players of all time.

Today, Woodson is the best #10 pick since the merger.

In 5 years it will likely be Mahomes.

Don't get me wrong, Mahomes is fantastic and the best QB right now in the NFL. However, his greatness must be written before he can take the place of an all time great. 3 years isn't long enough for that to happen.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Woodson is among the very best football players of all time.

Today, Woodson is the best #10 pick since the merger.

In 5 years it will likely be Mahomes.

Don't get me wrong, Mahomes is fantastic and the best QB right now in the NFL. However, his greatness must be written before he can take the place of an all time great. 3 years isn't long enough for that to happen.

^this^ Woodson is renting the spot on a 5 year lease, then Mahomes will live there for eternity.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell

Trent Dilfer won a SB, Joe Flacco won a SB, Cam Newton was an NFL MVP.

Bottom line is Mahomes simply hasn't had enought time to compete with a great great player with 17 years of greatness.

Mahomes is the best QB I have ever seen with just three NFL seasons, but that just isn't long enought to trump the greatness of Rod Woodson.

You didn’t answer my questions. I wonder why.

[Ubeja Vontell]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

You didn’t answer my questions. I wonder why.

Yes I did I mentioned some lesser lights winning SB's/NFL MVP.

Is Lamar "MVP" Jackson a great QB?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell

Yes I did I mentioned some lesser lights winning SB's/NFL MVP.

Is Lamar "MVP" Jackson a great QB?

He won the super bowl MVP? Which year?

How many super bowl mvps did Woodson win?

[Ubeja Vontell]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

He won the super bowl MVP? Which year?

How many super bowl mvps did Woodson win?

Obviously talking NFL MVP, and do you really think SB MVP is all that......Larry Brown!!!!

How can anyone compare any player with only ...three....seasons vs a 17 year vet who is considered one of the legends of the game.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell

Obviously talking NFL MVP, and do you really think SB MVP is all that......Larry Brown!!!!

How can anyone compare any player with only ...three....seasons vs a 17 year vet who is considered one of the legends of the game.

You're talking about the last Superbowl like it wasn't one of the greatest games of all time, with one of the greatest comebacks of all time, and Mahomes was some guy who just happened to be there.

Weird little box you live in.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I love rod woodson, but I’d take Mahomes no questions asked. Mahomes can will a team to Super Bowl victory. Woodson was great, but I don’t recall him being the primary reason a team won the sb.

How many sb victories did he have in those 17 years? How many NFL MVP awards? How many SB MVPs?

The MVPs is not the fairest of comparisons only because the MVP award is heavily biased in favor of QBs. Not always do they win, but by and large they have a much better shot than any other position on the field. But knowing that I do think who’s the better pick is a matter of perspective. If you value career accomplishments then Woodson is the better pick currently . If you value positional impact and current production it’s Mahomes hands down.

In spite of how great Woodson was only a fool would take him over Mahomes. No way he impacts the game and the team more than Pat does.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by tredadda

The MVPs is not the fairest of comparisons only because the MVP award is heavily biased in favor of QBs. Not always do they win, but by and large they have a much better shot than any other position on the field. But knowing that I do think who’s the better pick is a matter of perspective. If you value career accomplishments then Woodson is the better pick currently . If you value positional impact and current production it’s Mahomes hands down.

In spite of how great Woodson was only a fool would take him over Mahomes. No way he impacts the game and the team more than Pat does.

Agree with all of this. I love Rod Woodson and always have. However, if it's pick #10 and we're on the clock, I go with Pat and never look back.

Hell, you can win with Breeland (4th round), Ward (UDFA), and Fenton (6th round) at corner if you have Pat at the helm.