***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by ghak99

This is pretty small potatoes, but my niece plays on a traveling softball team. Many of the tournaments in areas of KC that haven't opened up yet are being moved to areas that are open for business. In some cases this is only a matter of a 5 miles, but the hotels all the teams stay at and the convenient stores between the hotel and the ballpark will definitely notice the difference in business.

At this point, the team has decided against traveling to the tournaments hosted in St. Louis. Which was an interesting vote.

You have any insider info on what's going on up at Triumph here in St Joe? All I have to go off are Facebook comments - and yeah. Those aren't exactly super reliable.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Did you go to Mid-Buch? I actually graduated from there. Didn't start going there till my freshmen year of high school.

Nope..I was a 238er.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Nope..I was a 238er.

Must be a Benton guy then. I was a 238er until we moved south of the city limits my 8th grade year. Glad I ended up at Mid Buch for high school, honestly.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by TLO

You have any insider info on what's going on up at Triumph here in St Joe? All I have to go off are Facebook comments - and yeah. Those aren't exactly super reliable.

I do not. They're kind of unique in their ownership structure and I don't believe I have any connections inside of that group.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by ghak99

This has been bothering me for a while now.

For ~20 years hog facilities have been shower in shower out and visitors are required to not have contact with other hogs for 24 hours prior to visiting. It's been a standard biosecurity measure for even longer at some facilities.

Our nursing homes, rehabilitation centers, and even some hospitals are often staffed by the reject nurses and have very minimal biosecurity measures in place. I know we can't lock them away behind glass to isolate them, but would a shower in shower out on policy on staff really be a bar too high? Obviously it doesn't do any good if they're an actual shedder and we can't require staff to limit normal contact, but spending your day homeschooling your 4 slobbering heathens and then heading off to your evening nursing home shift just seems like a terrible idea.

We're telling nurses to strip down outside of their homes before going into their family's environment, so why isn't it being encouraged/required in the other direction?

Because it wouldn't matter if they are still breathing.

People are getting this mainly from breathing in droplets. Not from touching things.

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

➡️Hospitalizations in the Kansas City region showed a 41% reduction

➡️Hospitalizations in the Central Region showed a 38% reduction

— Governor Mike Parson (@GovParsonMO) April 28, 2020




➡️Hospitalizations in the Southeast Region showed a 45% reduction

➡️Hospitalizations in the St. Louis region showed a slight increase (8% increase)

— Governor Mike Parson (@GovParsonMO) April 28, 2020

open that b*tch up!

Don't be like California. We have a castrated Governor with a castrated population.

[Mecca]

Hey we can't stop the lockdown, BWillie hasn't reached #1 on Golden Tee yet.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

open that b*tch up!

Don't be like California. We have a castrated Governor with a castrated population.

I feel for you. California is screwed, which affects us all.

May the odds be ever in your favor. https://t.co/sNBz8UEojO

— Aaron Ginn (@aginnt) April 28, 2020

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Hey we can't stop the lockdown, BWillie hasn't reached #1 on Golden Tee yet.

I'm now the 108th best Golden Tee Mobile golfer in the world. Don't **** this up, Texas and Georgia.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by ghak99

This has been bothering me for a while now.

For ~20 years hog facilities have been shower in shower out and visitors are required to not have contact with other hogs for 24 hours prior to visiting. It's been a standard biosecurity measure for even longer at some facilities.

Our nursing homes, rehabilitation centers, and even some hospitals are often staffed by the reject nurses and have very minimal biosecurity measures in place. I know we can't lock them away behind glass to isolate them, but would a shower in shower out on policy on staff really be a bar too high? Obviously it doesn't do any good if they're an actual shedder and we can't require staff to limit normal contact, but spending your day homeschooling your 4 slobbering heathens and then heading off to your evening nursing home shift just seems like a terrible idea.

We're telling nurses to strip down outside of their homes before going into their family's environment, so why isn't it being encouraged/required in the other direction?

We have to bring our work clothes and change on the way in and out.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

Hate to get political, but the good thing about having a loudmouth President is he will call out the Castrated Gavin in public very soon.

What’s it with you and the word castrated?

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Monticore

We have to bring our work clothes and change on the way in and out.

Bring your work clothes. That's a serious breach of the barrier.

Obviously, it's no worse than Grampa's visitors though.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

What’s it with you and the word castrated?

His girlfriend got him with a broken beer bottle.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by ghak99

Bring your work clothes. That's a serious breach of the barrier.

Obviously, it's no worse than Grampa's visitors though.

I bring work clothes in a bag , change into them , then change back before leaving

They don’t want you putting scrubs on at home going to work with them.

[Fish]

Those 2 Cali docs in scrubs in the video above are now facing some harsh criticism.

California doctors with dubious COVID conclusions debunked
Health experts were quick to say the doctors’ findings were misguided and riddled with statistical errors.

[...]

In a rare statement late today, the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine declared they “emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.”