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Yes, reread the post I responded to, he was stating reopening is a bad decision. We've flattened the curve with a lot less deaths than was predicted by the models WITH mitigation, and the reopening plan is pretty solid. Do you think we should should continue the stay at home orders until we have 0 new cases or deaths?
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With that said, and to play Devil's Advocate, which is worse? Most models that I've seen have shown that if New York had enacted measures two weeks earlier, their deaths would be between 50-80% lower. Now, you can't get those two weeks back, but if you wait an extra two weeks is there any data that suggests that X number of businesses are more likely to fail over waiting for that period compared to opening now? Also while you can't resurrect the dead, there does remain a possibility that jobs lost are not lost forever. So when talking about job losses, shouldn't we also consider how many of those jobs are gone forever vs. displaced for a while vs. gone to be replaced by a shittier job? There are degrees to this. The small business owner that is forced into bankruptcy and the single mom trying to feed her kids that gets laid off is hurt far more than the part time server who loses their college drinking money.
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Mayor Garcetti of los Angeles was just on TV saying the biggest dangers are people who have the Covid but show no symptoms and go into the general population as "Super Spreaders"
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This first and foremost gives the public more trust because by then we will either 1) have a strategy in place to target the most likely to suffer severe consequnces from the infection 2) treatment to atleast limit the fatalities and infections 3) a vaccine. Any of those scenario provides more confidence into the consumer. Other ways the idea of the economy opening and coming back is pure fantasy. Without that you can kiss the small businesses goodbye. They need a prolonged bailout. |
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This virus has been here since November at least if not October. Would you really be surprised after almost 6 months if 100,000 people in Ohio had it? Originally Posted by petegz28 View Post Masks don't do jack shit. Stop listening to the ****ing media. Originally Posted by petegz28 View Post We are jumping off the ledge. Closing schools for months. Shutting down all restaurants and bars. Canceling all sports. It is just starting to feel like people are panicking for the sake of panicking. I mean in WA most and I mean almost all of the deaths are from a nursing home or nursing homes. So you shut down schools for 2 months? Originally Posted by petegz28 View Post Meanwhile, no one anywhere else in the world is having the problems Italy is having. Why is that? Originally Posted by petegz28 View Post I have been hearing "we are headed to being like Italy" for the last week. I am starting to doubt that more and more. Hopefully the people saying this are very wrong. Originally Posted by Titty Meat View Post It's just the cold. People are dying the health care system could collapse and the market is tanking. It's just hysteria! Everything is fine. It is hysteria you ****ing twat. Evidenced not by the lack of orange juice, vitamins or Airborne but the lack of ****ing toilet paper. And you are the kind people that are driving it like it's some kind of ****ing movie or episode of the Walking Dead. No one said everything is fine. Just some of us are objective enough to understand that it not the end of the world you are desperately trying to make it out to be. All quotes a month + ago #petethings |
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I've heard zero from my buddy at Mayo since then.
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Who knows. Several members and a few mods have called his dangerous bullshit out yet when I do it 1 mod continues to warn both of us and then Pete goes the personal attack route called out by a few posters. Shit is jokes. Non political thread then links some shit to Glenn Beck lol
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