***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

MO DHSS Missouri Numbers Yesterday

Cases in Missouri: 10,006

Total Deaths: 524

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 124,006

MO DHSS Missouri Numbers Today

Cases in Missouri: 10,142

Total Deaths: 542

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 124,006 (not yet updated for 5/13/20)

As of 2:00 p.m. CT, May 13

[O.city]

Where are all these MO deaths coming from? STL? KC?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Yup CNN just got busted yesterday for manipulating information from a poll on Covid stating that 68% of Americans wouldn't go back to normal activity until there was vaccine but that's not motley what the poll data said. The data said 68% of Americans thought a vaccine was important.

This might be true of many stations , not just CNN .

[Halfcan]

Fauci says mask are useless!

Thanks, Fauci for totally backing up my previous post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUY...sVg16gjreQqIzA

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Where are all these MO deaths coming from? STL? KC?

I'm not sure. I haven't been keeping track of counties outside of my own.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Fauci says mask are useless!

Thanks, Fauci for totally backing up my previous post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUY...sVg16gjreQqIzA

That aired the first week of March, which means the interview was likely done in late February or the first few days of March.

Things have changed a *smidge* since then.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Where are all these MO deaths coming from? STL? KC?

369 of the deaths are from St Louis city & county. KC has 16.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Fauci says mask are useless!

Thanks, Fauci for totally backing up my previous post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUY...sVg16gjreQqIzA

That's from a couple months ago. And, really, it's evidence of the kind of thing thing that absolutely drives me nuts. It's one thing to be critical of the latest thinking. It's another to upload a YouTube video and purport that it's recent in an effort to discredit the latest consensus.

It's hard to have a rational debate when people are intentionally trying to mislead.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

That aired the first week of March, which means the interview was likely done in late February or the first few days of March.

Things have changed a *smidge* since then.

I don't see how the effectiveness of masks has changed from then to now. They help or they don't, that doesn't change with time or situation.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I don't see how the effectiveness of masks has changed from then to now. They help or they don't, that doesn't change with time or situation.

You don't think we've learned anything about how this virus is spread in the past couple months?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaFace

You don't think we've learned anything about how this virus is spread in the past couple months?

Actually I do not think we have learned much in that area. Its been known to be droplet spread from the get go I believe. What do you think has changed?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Fauci says mask are useless!

Thanks, Fauci for totally backing up my previous post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUY...sVg16gjreQqIzA

He doesn't say they are useless at all.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DaFace

That's from a couple months ago. And, really, it's evidence of the kind of thing thing that absolutely drives me nuts. It's one thing to be critical of the latest thinking. It's another to upload a YouTube video and purport that it's recent in an effort to discredit the latest consensus.

It's hard to have a rational debate when people are intentionally trying to mislead.

Where did I purport it was recent? The fact is, he said this. It is common sense that your mask will get cross-contaminated unless you are doing everything 100% correct.

I am not trying to mislead anyone.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I don't see how the effectiveness of masks has changed from then to now. They help or they don't, that doesn't change with time or situation.

They do. Even Fauci says that in that video.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by cdcox

...In the lab, more than 6 feet away: no facial covering required
In the lab, closer than 6 feet: facial covering required
In a common area like a hallway, stairway, etc: facial covering required...

We started exactly this last week. I work in a lab so there is no possibility of working from home with this kind of work.