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05-22-2020, 11:01 PM | #18 |
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1)Mahomes 2)Wilson (Very underrated in a boring system) 3)Rodgers (May be too high at this point. Leadership concerns and injury concerns obviously) 4)Ryan (Really underrated IMO) 5)Brees (Arm is protected by play designs) 6)Roethlisberger (injury concerns. He may be too high) 7)Watson (Too many killer bad plays to be higher IMO) 8)Stafford (Better version of Cousins. I would have loved to see him with a good offensive coaching staff during his career) 9)Dak (Maybe too low but I don't think he's elite) 10)Wentz (Would be higher if wasn't made of glass) 11)Jackson (lack of ability to throw to his WR's is holding him down which leads to my primary concern with him all along: Accuracy) Notables left off list: Brady-Arm is shot and he's in a horrible system for a weak arm. Has amazing talent around him though. Arians needs to protect him like Sean Payton protects Brees. Rivers-Never an elite QB IMO. Got a ton of stats in garbage time. Older, new system with worse weapons. Has a better line though so we'll see. |
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05-22-2020, 11:07 PM | #19 | |
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I just think there’s a wide gap between Top 5 and a Top 10 QB. I think one can make an argument Watson is on the outside part of the Top 10, but I think there’s a sizable space between him and Top 5 QB’s. Last edited by Chiefspants; 05-23-2020 at 12:19 AM.. |
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05-23-2020, 12:08 AM | #20 |
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05-23-2020, 06:19 AM | #21 |
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I would take most of the guys you didn’t list over Trubisky and Tyrod Taylor. Also, why is everyone so high on Carson Wentz? He’s pretty good when he’s healthy which is.....not often or certainly not often in the biggest games for his team. I like the old saying “the best ability is availability”. Give me most on that list over Wentz except for the true garbage quarterbacks.
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05-23-2020, 09:35 AM | #22 |
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Bro, come on now. There are not 15 QBs in the NFL who are better than Deshaun Watson.
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05-23-2020, 10:00 AM | #23 |
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Brady at 7 is hilarious. He might put up top 15 numbers wirh all the weapons he has but he's a shell of himself. They would have been better off to get Cam Newton. But if Brady and Gronk are a package deal I guess. Bucs are a QB away from being one 2nd or 3rd best team in NFC. And Brady aint it.
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05-23-2020, 11:30 AM | #24 | |
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Passing Yards: 3,852 (13th) YPA: 7.8 (12th) AYPA: 7.7 (11th) YPG: 256.8 (11th) Rating: 98.0 (11th) TD% 5.3 (9th) INT% 2.4 (20th) Touchdowns: 26 (10th) Watson is Top 5 in completion percentage (coming in at 5th) but he was also ranked #1 in sacks for the second straight year, coming in with 55 this year. He took 62 in 2018. This is where I feel the Smith comparison shines the brightest. The Texans invested heavily to improve their OL after 2018 and it didn't end up mattering all that much. Houston's (@ BattleRedBlog) own fans analyzed his sacks from 2018 and found that around 35% of them were due to Watson holding onto the ball too long. I believe Watson, like Smith, makes his line look far worse than it actually is and I feel that is a major concern to his game. Honestly, the criticism this forum is so quick to tag onto Lamar Jackson as an argument for why Lamar isn't elite should be tagged to Watson. I also am curious to see how Watson adapts to losing Hopkins this year. If I had to rank my Top 10, I'd go.. 1. Mahomes 2. Wilson (There is a big gap here) 3. Rodgers 4. Lamar (hard to place him at the moment) 5. Brees 6. Ryan 7. Dak 8. Stafford 9. Rapesburger 10. Watson 11. Wentz (Wentz would be #10 for me if it weren't for his durability concerns). Last edited by Chiefspants; 05-23-2020 at 11:52 AM.. |
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05-23-2020, 12:17 PM | #26 | |
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Passing Yards: 5,129 (1st - over Mahomes) YPA: 7.6 (13th) AYPA: 7.5 (14th) YPG: 320.6 (1st) Rating: 96.5 (15th) QBR: 71.0 (3rd) TD% 5.0 (17th) Touchdowns: 34 (5th) Sacks 24 (24th) Compared to Watson's 2018.. Passing Yards: 4,165 (15th) YPA: 8.2 (7th) AYPA: 8.8 (8th) YPG: 260.3 (18th) Rating 103.1 (6th) QBR: 60.7 (15th) TD%: 5.1 (15th) Touchdowns: 26 (12th) Sacks 62 (1st) I realize Big Rape's volume helps here, but the dude was still putting up prolific numbers and Watson has not come close to Big Ben's 2018 those total numbers or QBR in his career. At the end of the day I detest Ben the person, but I'm not ready to say he's done with the numbers he continued to put up through 2018. His duel against Patrick in 2018 is a particularly fun re-watch as well. Last edited by Chiefspants; 05-23-2020 at 12:24 PM.. |
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05-23-2020, 12:32 PM | #27 | |
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The OP list seems good overall, but I'd lower Jackson down to around 6, and I think Brady should be down around 15 at most, and maybe as low as 25. Brady clearly had a fork in him last year and this year will be worse. I'd also move Wentz down a few spots. I'd move Stafford up several spot, just above Ryan.
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