***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Mecca

LOL...

We basically have a lot of older posters, lots of rural area posters, and frankly this is still the bible belt so we have that too. And we know how all of that sways..We're also in a time where things are being taken to levels of a bunch of genders, the way you talk, etc etc.

Just look at a Super Bowl halftime performer thread and take a guess at the demographic.

CP's top 3 suggestions are Led Zeppelin, ZZ Top, and Lynyrd Skynyrd

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

I've been in academia like 67% of my life and can say with absolute certainty....

the only problem with education is that we keep cutting funding. look at the freaking stats, a better educated populace has a TON of benefits.

Yeah the problem isnt funding, its how its being spent.

I understand some schools need more funding. But the United States pay way more per a child to get wildly different results compared to other countries.

Personally I think we need to go year round with school like some European schools do.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by sedated

Just look at a Super Bowl halftime performer thread and take a guess at the demographic.

CP's top 3 suggestions are Led Zeppelin, ZZ Top, and Lynyrd Skynyrd

Is that actually true?

[ChiTown]

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Yeah the problem isnt funding, its how its being spent.

I understand some schools need more funding. But the United States pay way more per a child to get wildly different results compared to other countries.

Personally I think we need to go year round with school like some European schools do.

There are some schools that do that, no child left behind was a terrible thing.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by sedated

Just look at a Super Bowl halftime performer thread and take a guess at the demographic.

CP's top 3 suggestions are Led Zeppelin, ZZ Top, and Lynyrd Skynyrd

- Led Zeppelin and Skynrd? Is that even possible?

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Is that actually true?

Lol, no.

You really think CP could agree on anything?

(Other than rap music sucks)

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

nailed it. you missed my edit, but it kinda explains the south.

there is still latent racism regardless of whether a person wants to acknowledge it, and it's funny.... the freaking slaves NOR THEIR DESCENDENDS obviously have never been on top (michael jordan, oprah, lebron and a handful over 160 years notwithstanding) but... it's the black man, right bubba?

yeah. it's the guy who's way higher % likelihood to have been born in a broken home, way higher chance of going to jail, way higher chance to be killed by violent means...

you absolutely nailed it. we MADE it black/white by policies (why is marijuana illegal? richard nixon and the fact that blacks/hippies liked it, so he wanted to demonize them).

it was always rich/poor and it's hilarious and sad to me that those most affected by it (my parents are life-long hard right leaning and... live in squalor/poverty).

vote against your interests, please people. keep voting to keep the money flowing to the top. great idea.

Something that I've always found interesting is how the poorest states in the union repeatedly vote for the party that isn't helpful to that.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Is that actually true?

Not Zeppelin. He changed it from AC/DC.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by sedated

Lol, no.

You really think CP could agree on anything?

(Other than rap music sucks)

I was gonna say there's no way a country act didn't make it into the top 3.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

There are some schools that do that, no child left behind was a terrible thing.

agreed education should have never been a federal thing in my opinion. Leave it LOCAL where the people closest have the power to remove bad educators/administrators.

If your school district is preforming like crap, local population should have a right to change it.

Instead we train our children to pass standardized testing, and other dumb crap.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Something that I've always found interesting is how the poorest states in the union repeatedly vote for the party that isn't helpful to that.

Lol

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

agreed education should have never been a federal thing in my opinion. Leave it LOCAL where the people closest have the power to remove bad educators/administrators.

If your school district is preforming like crap, local population should have a right to change it.

Instead we train our children to pass standardized testing, and other dumb crap.

You also train a generation of kids, I've personally watched this, that they can literally go straight F and they are passed to the next grade and this continues till they are in high school. If you teach someone, especially a kid in their formative years. They get the same reward as the kid that worked hard, what is the incentive for trying?

Kids are like any other group in the country you reward them for being lazy guess what they're gonna be? Then you expect by the time they're 14 they're just gonna flip a switch and be productive in high school and go to college?

[BleedingRed]

HERE WE GO AGAIN

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Lol

But it's true....I mean you can laugh and all.