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Old 07-09-2020, 02:27 PM   #1
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Imagine if we didn’t let the losers of a war dictate anything
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:30 PM   #2
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Imagine if we didn’t let the losers of a war dictate anything
We didn't. This was the worst land possible we could have given Native Americans and forced them to take it. We then decided to ignore those "treaties" and take the land back anyway. We're fighting against the dictations of U.S. policymakers of the 1800's here.
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:09 PM   #3
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We didn't. This was the worst land possible we could have given Native Americans and forced them to take it. We then decided to ignore those "treaties" and take the land back anyway. We're fighting against the dictations of U.S. policymakers of the 1800's here.
We have defeated them on the battlefield. Took their land. Forced them off the good land that we wanted, Gave them the worst land in what is now the USA. Then took it again. Forced them to move again to what is now crappier land and we took the good land again. I think we have behaved like the victors the whole time. We could/should have shown some compassion towards them at many times over the years. We could have done that and still be the big dog winners.
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:12 PM   #4
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We have defeated them on the battlefield. Took their land. Forced them off the good land that we wanted, Gave them the worst land in what is now the USA. Then took it again. Forced them to move again to what is now crappier land and we took the good land again. I think we have behaved like the victors the whole time. We could/should have shown some compassion towards them at many times over the years. We could have done that and still be the big dog winners.
We show large amounts of compassion towards them. There are nations where conquered peoples fare much worse than here, if they weren’t simply wiped out.
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:30 PM   #5
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yeah, Oklahoma and Congress needs to negotiate a settlement with the Tribes, because their next move is to stop paying income and sales taxes. On the tribal side of the table though, they probably still need state services and help to maintain infrastructure, so a deal ought to be possible.
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Old 07-11-2020, 11:10 AM   #6
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Imagine if we didn’t let the losers of a war dictate anything
Yeah! If we did that they would probably try to build statues and monuments to their war heroes, try and rewrite history to bury the real reason and whitewash it as some glorious "Lost Cause" and work in social economic systems to try and maintain their status quo. Can't have that.
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