***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You’re wrong. I’m willing to admire that I was being hyperbolic when I said “none” (thought that would be obvious), but if you’re claiming that’s inaccurate you’re 100% wrong. I have social media, I pay attention to what the politicians and medical experts are saying, and it’s pretty obvious there’s an overwhelming bias when it comes to who’s receiving most of the blame.

You actually want to do this again?

I've already proven you wrong. It's above, and you even acknowledged it. Why on Earth would you even attempt this?

Again, are you still waiting on Florida to uptick?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by tk13

I can see the case for limiting the amount of people in these places, but I don't know about shutting them down completely.

If there's not spread there, why limit anything?

People outside are at basically no risk to catch this thing.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

You actually want to do this again?

I've already proven you wrong. It's above, and you even acknowledged it. Why on Earth would you even attempt this?

Again, are you still waiting on Florida to uptick?

You’ve proven me wrong?

You’re beyond full of shit. The overwhelming narrative is that America is struggling because of stubborn people that don’t want to wear their mask. The protestors are not receiving the blame equally whatsoever. The fact that you think you proved that wrong when all you’ve done is post a Fauci quote is hilarious.

We have politicians and medical experts saying it’s ok to do one and not the other. What more proof do you need?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You’ve proven me wrong?

You’re beyond full of shit. The overwhelming narrative is that America is struggling because of stubborn people that don’t want to wear their mask. The protestors are not receiving the blame equally whatsoever. The fact that you think you proved that wrong when all you’ve done is post a Fauci quote is hilarious.

We have politicians and medical experts saying it’s ok to do one and not the other. What more proof do you need?

Yes, I have. And here's your acknowledgement and alteration:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ostcount=40338

You've gone from no one to not equally. That massive goalpost move is just more confirmation that you were wrong.

Are you still waiting on Florida? You seem to be avoiding that for some reason.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

If there's not spread there, why limit anything?

People outside are at basically no risk to catch this thing.

Because reasons.....

[KCrockaholic]

I do chuckle at how everyone runs around their town wearing masks and all this freaked out stuff, then on the weekends everyone meets up for birthday parties and family reunions and suddenly the Rona goes away and we don't need to wear masks because it can't travel within family members just like it can only see you when you first enter a bar, but once you sit down you're immune and don't need a mask anymore.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, I have. And here's your acknowledgement and alteration:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ostcount=40338

You've gone from no one to not equally. That massive goalpost move is just more confirmation that you were wrong.

Are you still waiting on Florida? You seem to be avoiding that for some reason.

It was obvious hyperbole. I didn’t think I needed to clarify that some people are acknowledging that the protests contributed to the spread. I myself am giving them blame, so “none” was clearly not meant to be taken literally. You’d think it was obvious that I’m talking about the overwhelming narrative.

I’m not avoiding anything about Florida, I will get to that when you stop being the annoying little one who sucks the penis that you are and acknowledge what the overall narrative when it comes to who’s to blame...

[jdubya]

https://patch.com/california/lamorin...ign=newsletter

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

It was obvious hyperbole. I didn’t think I needed to clarify that some people are acknowledging that the protests contributed to the spread. I myself am giving them blame, so “none” was clearly not meant to be taken literally. You’d think it was obvious that I’m talking about the overwhelming narrative.

I’m not avoiding anything about Florida, I will get to that when you stop being the annoying little one who sucks the penis that you are and acknowledge what the overall narrative when it comes to who’s to blame...

Sure, you can blame it on hyperbole.

Great.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by tk13

The protests are definitely not a zero risk thing, but like everything else, people in this country are mentally ill when it comes to politics. This probably shouldn't be in this thread anyway.

The reality is that outdoor transmission seems way, way less likely than indoor transmission, and people going to bars and restaurants are probably causing way more issues than any of these protests.

Likely....The majority of the cases and fatalities in my county stem from a handful of nursing homes and convalescent hospitals. Eliminate those and corona isnt quite as newsworthy.

The left is out of their ****ing minds these days although I probably shouldnt post that here

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Sure, you can blame it on hyperbole.

Great.

Do you really think that I believed that literally nobody was blaming protestors when me and several people on CP have done just that?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Do you really think that I believed that literally nobody was blaming protestors when me and several people on CP have done just that?

I can't help what you wrote. Try harder next time.

Now, onward.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

I can't help what you wrote. Try harder next time.

Now, onward.

So you’re a robot incapable of thinking critically. Noted.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

So you’re a robot incapable of thinking critically. Noted.

As I said, your agenda is clear, as you've demonstrated (intended).

[Fish]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Likely....The majority of the cases and fatalities in my county stem from a handful of nursing homes and convalescent hospitals. Eliminate those and corona isnt quite as newsworthy.

The left is out of their ****ing minds these days although I probably shouldnt post that here

Yeah, if you ignore the high death count locations, the deaths go way down.

Out of their minds, over a high number of old people dying. LOLZ amirite?