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Old 08-15-2020, 05:49 PM   #1
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I don't have a good answer for it.
Well, since some people are unable to "Self-Police" in the Lounge, the answer would involve a ridiculous amount of work on behalf of the moderators, which is unfair because CP moderators aren't paid for their time or services.

But outside of just booting people day in a day out, there really isn't an answer because apparently, some people view everything with a political eye, which often causes pure football threads to become political in nature, basically defeating the idea of having a Lounge for football/sports and a DC for politics.


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Daface one day mentioned having no DC at all... and while in theory that gives people a place to spew all of their political drivel, maybe getting rid of it would drive those idiots away.
I'd be all for abolishing the DC because the overwhelming majority of those people rarely even bother participating in the Lounge (or the other forums), so their contributions would not be missed.

The real problem with abolishing the DC is that not only would the Lounge need to be heavily moderated 24/7, it would likely take months of heavy moderation and most likely, dozens of bannings in order for those people to stop with the political talk and even then, it would be a challenge to moderate on a daily basis.
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Old 08-15-2020, 05:53 PM   #2
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Well, since some people are unable to "Self-Police" in the Lounge, the answer would involve a ridiculous amount of work on behalf of the moderators, which is unfair because CP moderators aren't paid for their time or services.

But outside of just booting people day in a day out, there really isn't an answer because apparently, some people view everything with a political eye, which often causes pure football threads to become political in nature, basically defeating the idea of having a Lounge for football/sports and a DC for politics.




I'd be all for abolishing the DC because the overwhelming majority of those people rarely even bother participating in the Lounge (or the other forums), so their contributions would not be missed.

The real problem with abolishing the DC is that not only would the Lounge need to be heavily moderated 24/7, it would likely take months of heavy moderation and most likely, dozens of bannings in order for those people to stop with the political talk and even then, it would be a challenge to moderate on a daily basis.
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:02 PM   #3
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Well, since some people are unable to "Self-Police" in the Lounge, the answer would involve a ridiculous amount of work on behalf of the moderators, which is unfair because CP moderators aren't paid for their time or services.

But outside of just booting people day in a day out, there really isn't an answer because apparently, some people view everything with a political eye, which often causes pure football threads to become political in nature, basically defeating the idea of having a Lounge for football/sports and a DC for politics.




I'd be all for abolishing the DC because the overwhelming majority of those people rarely even bother participating in the Lounge (or the other forums), so their contributions would not be missed.

The real problem with abolishing the DC is that not only would the Lounge need to be heavily moderated 24/7, it would likely take months of heavy moderation and most likely, dozens of bannings in order for those people to stop with the political talk and even then, it would be a challenge to moderate on a daily basis.
I think anything like that would require a decision to basically just allow the mods to enforce their opinions broadly and let the rules all be be fuzzy guidelines. That can work in some communities, but it's pretty contrary to how things have always been done around here.
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:32 PM   #4
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I think anything like that would require a decision to basically just allow the mods to enforce their opinions broadly and let the rules all be be fuzzy guidelines. That can work in some communities, but it's pretty contrary to how things have always been done around here.
there would be a revolt if mods were allowed to “mod” on their opinions.
The current societal and government situations are going to have some bleed over into football, fans, games etc that normally would never occur. I pushed the envelope when it first started as much as anyone. But, in my defense I’ve not posted like that for months now.
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:32 PM   #5
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I think anything like that would require a decision to basically just allow the mods to enforce their opinions broadly and let the rules all be be fuzzy guidelines. That can work in some communities, but it's pretty contrary to how things have always been done around here.
I disagree. There's no reason for people to bring up politics or their hatred of certain TV channels due their politics in threads about football.

Some knucklehead brought up his hatred of a TV network in the Damien Williams thread, which is completely and utterly unnecessary.

The blatant posts are blatant and IMO, aren't that difficult to spot and require no opinion by the moderator.

Bring up politics = banned from the thread. Seems pretty easy to me.
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:53 PM   #6
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I disagree. There's no reason for people to bring up politics or their hatred of certain TV channels due their politics in threads about football.



Some knucklehead brought up his hatred of a TV network in the Damien Williams thread, which is completely and utterly unnecessary.



The blatant posts are blatant and IMO, aren't that difficult to spot and require no opinion by the moderator.



Bring up politics = banned from the thread. Seems pretty easy to me.
I guess feel free to do a poll and see if a majority of people want us to ban people for mentioning certain TV channels.
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:58 PM   #7
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I guess feel free to do a poll and see if a majority of people want us to ban people for mentioning certain TV channels.
Okay, now you're being obtude, Dude.

The point is that some people either cannot or will not separate sports from their political beliefs and it's becoming more and more prevalent in the Lounge with each passing day.

If you want to sit back and make snarky remarks, go for it, but I thought that we were having a rational conversation.

Apparently, I was wrong.
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Old 08-15-2020, 07:04 PM   #8
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Okay, now you're being obtude, Dude.

The point is that some people either cannot or will not separate sports from their political beliefs and it's becoming more and more prevalent in the Lounge with each passing day.

If you want to sit back and make snarky remarks, go for it, but I thought that we were having a rational conversation.

Apparently, I was wrong.
This place has pretty much always been ruled by the majority. I don't think what you're suggesting is something that the majority wants. You are welcome to prove me wrong.

I don't know how that's being obtuse.
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:06 PM   #9
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Well, since some people are unable to "Self-Police" in the Lounge, the answer would involve a ridiculous amount of work on behalf of the moderators, which is unfair because CP moderators aren't paid for their time or services.

But outside of just booting people day in a day out, there really isn't an answer because apparently, some people view everything with a political eye, which often causes pure football threads to become political in nature, basically defeating the idea of having a Lounge for football/sports and a DC for politics.




I'd be all for abolishing the DC because the overwhelming majority of those people rarely even bother participating in the Lounge (or the other forums), so their contributions would not be missed.

The real problem with abolishing the DC is that not only would the Lounge need to be heavily moderated 24/7, it would likely take months of heavy moderation and most likely, dozens of bannings in order for those people to stop with the political talk and even then, it would be a challenge to moderate on a daily basis.



I pretty much agree with your post, although I wonder if having DC doesn't actually cause more political posts in the Lounge.
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:14 PM   #10
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I pretty much agree with your post, although I wonder if having DC doesn't actually cause more political posts in the Lounge.
I kind of think it probably does. People get used to the shit slinging in DC and naturally carry that style over to the Lounge.

To be fair though, all of this started with 88 spewing nonsense, and he tends to do that regardless of the topic.
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:22 PM   #11
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I kind of think it probably does. People get used to the shit slinging in DC and naturally carry that style over to the Lounge.

To be fair though, all of this started with 88 spewing nonsense, and he tends to do that regardless of the topic.
As has been pointed out already....88 in a user name tells you all you need to know.
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Well, since some people are unable to "Self-Police" in the Lounge, the answer would involve a ridiculous amount of work on behalf of the moderators, which is unfair because CP moderators aren't paid for their time or services.

But outside of just booting people day in a day out, there really isn't an answer because apparently, some people view everything with a political eye, which often causes pure football threads to become political in nature, basically defeating the idea of having a Lounge for football/sports and a DC for politics.




I'd be all for abolishing the DC because the overwhelming majority of those people rarely even bother participating in the Lounge (or the other forums), so their contributions would not be missed.

The real problem with abolishing the DC is that not only would the Lounge need to be heavily moderated 24/7, it would likely take months of heavy moderation and most likely, dozens of bannings in order for those people to stop with the political talk and even then, it would be a challenge to moderate on a daily basis.
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