***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mr. Plow]

Just got confirmation that my dad tested positive - along with 6 of his golfing buddies.

He's doing ok - said he doesn't really feel all that bad. Has had a off & on fever for the last couple days & told me today that he lost his sense of taste. Also has a little bit of a stuffy nose and upset stomach.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Just observations, such as people riding in their cars by themselves with them on. Personally, I know it will be odd at first for me to go into certain places without it.

I can see that.

On the other hand, I lost count of how many times I forgot the mask in my car only to realize it when I get to the door of the store and annoyingly have to go back for it. I have also seen other people do it.

I have also forgotten to take it off in my car on occasion.

I have been wearing a mask well before any "mandates" were issued just because I felt like it was a smart thing to do. I can't wait to get my vaccine and not have to worry about it any more.

And, yes, I am aware that Fauci said it's still a good idea to wear it after you get vaccinated, but I'm okay with there being a 5% chance of it not working on me.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Just got confirmation that my dad tested positive - along with 6 of his golfing buddies.

He's doing ok - said he doesn't really feel all that bad. Has had a off & on fever for the last couple days & told me today that he lost his sense of taste. Also has a little bit of a stuffy nose and upset stomach.

I hope his symptoms remain mild, man. Positive thoughts and prayers your way.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Well hell. Good friend of mine stopped by for diner last week. The next morning he was sick. A roller coaster of fever and chills along with no energy and general flu like symptoms. He got a covid test Friday, supposed to have results in 24 hrs. He still hasn't heard anything, it looks like the 24 hrs doesn't include the weekend.
I'm still stuck at home, isolating until he get's the results. I feel fine but he's getting worse.

My friends test came back positive. He still feels like shit but hasn't had any respiratory problems so far.
Today makes five days since he was here (last tuesday night), four days since he showed symptoms.
So far I feel fine. I'll be surprised if I don't come down with it considering he had dinner and was here for about three hours

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Well, the fact that it was never done in this culture before and now I can see people having trouble not wearing them. Maybe not because of a virus, but because it has almost become part of them. They feel naked without it.

I hated at first wearing a mask but now I am used to it. Here is my hot take, during flu season we should all wear masks in public moving forward. I know it probably won't happen here but it does happen in Asian countries.

I view mask wearing like wearing seat belts and it took a very long time to get people using their seat belts but now it is common.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I hated at first wearing a mask but now I am used to it. Here is my hot take, during flu season we should all wear masks in public moving forward. I know it probably won't happen here but it does happen in Asian countries.

I view mask wearing like wearing seat belts and it took a very long time to get people using their seat belts but now it is common.

They will be representive of a dark miserable time in our history. I agree, I just don't see it.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Pants

I hope his symptoms remain mild, man. Positive thoughts and prayers your way.

Thanks. Clinic told him he had to quarantine for 10 days from first sign of symptoms which was last Monday night. He's been locked up in his house since then. Hoping he's through the worst of it, but I've seen several people the last couple weeks that appeared to be on the way out of it, only to have it kick in worse than before.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

My friends test came back positive. He still feels like shit but hasn't had any respiratory problems so far.
Today makes five days since he was here (last tuesday night), four days since he showed symptoms.
So far I feel fine. I'll be surprised if I don't come down with it considering he had dinner and was here for about three hours

My Wife and son were in the same house with me 24/7 for my entire sickness and they never showed a symptom.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I hated at first wearing a mask but now I am used to it. Here is my hot take, during flu season we should all wear masks in public moving forward. I know it probably won't happen here but it does happen in Asian countries.

I view mask wearing like wearing seat belts and it took a very long time to get people using their seat belts but now it is common.

I honestly think that the resistance to masks is more about resistance to change than about any political beliefs. It's not consistent with other behaviors to be a true political stance. It's very consistent with a general resistance to change, and it matches the adoption patterns of other safety behaviors like seat belts. In fact, I might say that mask adoption has been successful because it's happened faster than other behavioral safety changes.

I go running on the weekends, and I wear a mask in case I pass near people. I'm generally running in non-crowded areas, so I pull the mask down off my mouth when I'm by myself, and I pull it up when someone approaches. (Yeah, yeah, not ideal behavior.) I've had times recently where I'll actually forget to pull the mask back down afterwards because I'm used to it. I'll go another couple of blocks before I notice.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I honestly think that the resistance to masks is more about resistance to change than about any political beliefs. It's not consistent with other behaviors to be a true political stance. It's very consistent with a general resistance to change, and it matches the adoption patterns of other safety behaviors like seat belts. In fact, I might say that mask adoption has been successful because it's happened faster than other behavioral safety changes.

I go running on the weekends, and I wear a mask in case I pass near people. I'm generally running in non-crowded areas, so I pull the mask down off my mouth when I'm by myself, and I pull it up when someone approaches. (Yeah, yeah, not ideal behavior.) I've had times recently where I'll actually forget to pull the mask back down afterwards because I'm used to it. I'll go another couple of blocks before I notice.

I agree almost entirely but I believe there is politics playing into some people not wearing masks. I also think those people are dumb.

[dirk digler]

New KCMO restrictions. He should just close indoor restaurants, bars, gyms etc

Here are the new @KCMO #COVID19 guidelines from @MayorLucasKC to help contain the spread @41actionnews pic.twitter.com/40SnLIUAWw

— Andres Gutierrez (@AFGutierrez) November 16, 2020

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Delano

That feeling is common with any PPE that’s part of routine safety. I felt naked without a hard hat for a while when I stopped doing tree work. The mask isn’t an identity thing as you’re making it out to be. It’s purely safety and empathy and I guess if that’s symbolic then so be it.

Remember when they come up with Seat belt laws? People anf groups protesting Infringement on my rights. Freedom! etc. etc.

Now, 95% of Americans wear a seat belt by choice. A seat belt ticket is a very rare thing, usually a cop being a dick to you or you being a dick to the cop.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Just got confirmation that my dad tested positive - along with 6 of his golfing buddies.

He's doing ok - said he doesn't really feel all that bad. Has had a off & on fever for the last couple days & told me today that he lost his sense of taste. Also has a little bit of a stuffy nose and upset stomach.

Positive thoughts heading your way and wishing a quick turnaround to normal health for your dad.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I agree almost entirely but I believe there is politics playing into some people not wearing masks. I also think those people are dumb.

Thats the two main reasons.

[BigRedChief]

1 million positive cases in the last week here in the USA.