***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

I think so to. I think he'll be okay in the end. The only part that terrifies me is the thought of him dying a slow, lonely death with no loved ones around. That thought tears me up.

Thats a valid thought. Every family member has that as their first thought. Try to not to dwell on those thoughts. It's hard but essential. He's not there yet. Lots of positive news about convalescent plasma. He's just on supplement 02 now, He can turn it around. Positive thoughts heading your way.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats a valid thought. Every family member has that as their first thought. Try to not to dwell on those thoughts. It's hard but essential. He's not there yet. Lots of positive news about convalescent plasma. He's just on supplement 02 now, He can turn it around. Positive thoughts heading your way.

Thanks, dude. I’m truly not all doom and gloom, even if my posts seem that way. I think he’ll be okay in the end.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

A nurse called me. My dad received an infusion earlier today. It was an experimental drug that helps patients with comorbidities. Either he didn’t react well to it or the COVID is hitting him hard. He keeps vomiting, doesn’t know where he is, and can’t remember five minutes prior. They’ve got him on some forced oxygen into his nose. He has also developed some AFib (top of the heart basically quivering, I believe). The nurse was super nice and pretty optimistic that they’re on the right track to get him headed in the right direction. I’m his emergency contact and they asked for permission to treat him with convalescent plasma which I gladly permitted. I was very happy that they were offering that as an option.

If the Nurse is optimistic that's a great sign.. Good vibes heading your way..

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

Thanks, dude. I’m truly not all doom and gloom, even if my posts seem that way. I think he’ll be okay in the end.

I know that feeling personally beyond witnessing professionally for years.
I got a call from my uncle in Springfield. He told me I needed to get down there from KC right away. My Dad had taken a turn for the worse. Got down there, stayed in the hospital that night with him giving mom a break. He died that night. Because I was there when he died everyone felt better. Dying alone, that’s just not right. Sometimes you can’t prevent it. Try not to stress over worse case scenarios.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I know that feeling personally beyond witnessing professionally for years.
I got a call from my uncle in Springfield. He told me I needed to get down there from KC right away. My Dad had taken a turn for the worse. Got down there, stayed in the hospital that night with him giving mom a break. He tied that night. Because I was there when he died everyone felt better. Dying alone, that’s just not right.

I'm sorry to hear that but glad you were able to be there.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

This bam infusion is the one my dad seems to have reacted poorly to today. https://www.kcci.com/article/central...tment/34827600

[BigCatDaddy]

Covid was here as early as December?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...re-china-cases

[Katipan]

That's when half the company i work for got horribly sick with a scary tho not huge percentage ending up on oxygen in the hospital.

[MahomesMagic]

It does cause some problems to the narrative if Covid was spreading here for months..

I think Dr. Sunetra Gupta always pointed out the possibility and was ridiculed for it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Covid was here as early as December?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...re-china-cases

We're almost certain 2 of our family members had it right around Christmas. Definitely COVID symptoms, not just the regular flu or anything and the doctors told both of them they had an "unknown virus".

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Covid was here as early as December?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...re-china-cases

My sister, cardiac nurse, got really sick last December. 4 day fever, aches chills. Its been here for longer than they led on.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

My sister, cardiac nurse, got really sick last December. 4 day fever, aches chills. Its been here for longer than they led on.

led on? odd phrasing there, it also doesn't change where we are now.

[loochy]

One time in 1993 I got a fever. It was probably COVID.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by Monticore

led on? odd phrasing there, it also doesn't change where we are now.

He didn’t say it did , it’s been here longer than they have lead us to believe .

[dirk digler]

Based on the China documents CNN got their hands on China had an unknown flu (Covid)outbreak the first part of December in Hubei province so yes I believe Covid was here in December.

I have posted this before but 4 of us were in NYC at Christmas time and when we returned 2 weeks later 3 of our group came down with pneumonia like symptoms and it lasted a couple of weeks. All I got was the sniffles.