***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by stevieray

died of covid?

It happens.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Florida governor:
Instead of giving two doses, as recommended by the pharmaceutical manufacturer, to high-risk populations such as nursing home residents and front-line hospital workers, perhaps one dose could do, the Governor suggested Friday.i

DeSantis pointed to an article in The Wall Street Journal — it was an opinion piece written by neuroscientist Michael Segal — about the efficacy of the one-dose approach. DeSantis referred to the second dose as a “booster” shot, echoing Segal’s choice of words.

“Just get as many doses out there,” the Governor said during a mental-health roundtable in Tampa on Friday. “I’m not sure that Pfizer would agree or FDA would agree, but I think just the point is, getting that first does out really does make a difference, and I think you’ll see that.

It was designed for two. Use two. Don't half ass it and get quarter ass results.

[RockChalk]

Originally Posted by loochy

It was designed for two. Use two. Don't half ass it and get quarter ass results.

When you become an elected official, it also gives you degrees / expertise in every category. Medical Advice? Hell Yes Authority on Law? Absolutely

Thing is, people will read what DeSantis said and agree with him.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

It was designed for two. Use two. Don't half ass it and get quarter ass results.

Meh, those old people only got a couple months left anyway....

[Donger]

New York state administered its first non-trial vaccine this morning to a health care worker. The Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine was administered to Sandra Lindsay, a critical care nurse at Long Island Jewish Medical Center in Queens, New York City, at about 9:20 a.m. ET Monday during a livestream organized by Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

After getting her first shot, Sandra said she felt hopeful:

"I feel hopeful today, relieved. I feel like healing is coming. I hope this marks the beginning of the end of a very painful time in our country. I want to instill public confidence that the vaccine is safe. We're in a pandemic and so we all need to do our part to put an end to the pandemic, and to not give up so soon. There's light at the end of the tunnel but we still need to continue to wear our mask, to social distance. I believe in science. As a nurse, my practice is guided by science, and so I trust that. What I don't trust is that if I contract Covid, I don't know how it will impact me or those who I come in contact with. So I encourage everyone to take the vaccine."

[dirk digler]

Our company got sent enough of the Pfizer vaccine for all of our employees (3500) but approximately 60% have said yes. I don't think they are very happy about that and at some point they said they are going to mandate it or you are going to have to wear lots of PPE.

I declined because I want the Moderna one which we are supposed to be getting.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Our company got sent enough of the Pfizer vaccine for all of our employees (3500) but approximately 60% have said yes. I don't think they are very happy about that and at some point they said they are going to mandate it or you are going to have to wear lots of PPE.

I declined because I want the Moderna one which we are supposed to be getting.

Damn, you went from hide in your house to being picky about which vaccine???

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by stevieray

died of covid?

Yes. As in both of the owners of the bar(husband/wife) contracted covid and died from it within a couple of weeks of one another.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Our company got sent enough of the Pfizer vaccine for all of our employees (3500) but approximately 60% have said yes. I don't think they are very happy about that and at some point they said they are going to mandate it or you are going to have to wear lots of PPE.

I declined because I want the Moderna one which we are supposed to be getting.

Out of curiosity, what do you like about the Moderna one that you don't like about the Pfizer one?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Our company got sent enough of the Pfizer vaccine for all of our employees (3500) but approximately 60% have said yes. I don't think they are very happy about that and at some point they said they are going to mandate it or you are going to have to wear lots of PPE.

I declined because I want the Moderna one which we are supposed to be getting.

Can I pay a visit to your company and help them use up the unused Pfizer vaccine?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Out of curiosity, what do you like about the Moderna one that you don't like about the Pfizer one?

Good question and reading about each of them the Moderna seems to have less severe symptoms and they didn't have anybody get a severe case of Covid. I believe the Pfizer vaccine did.

Probably some of this is also they aren't first but if the Pfizer vaccine was the only one we had I would definitely get it but I have a choice.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Out of curiosity, what do you like about the Moderna one that you don't like about the Pfizer one?

Don't trust the Germans.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Good question and reading about each of them the Moderna seems to have less severe symptoms and they didn't have anybody get a severe case of Covid. I believe the Pfizer vaccine did.

Probably some of this is also they aren't first but if the Pfizer vaccine was the only one we had I would definitely get it but I have a choice.

The severe Covid was in the placebo arm IIRC.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Good question and reading about each of them the Moderna seems to have less severe symptoms and they didn't have anybody get a severe case of Covid. I believe the Pfizer vaccine did.

Probably some of this is also they aren't first but if the Pfizer vaccine was the only one we had I would definitely get it but I have a choice.

One patient out of 18,000 got a severe case of COVID.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

The severe Covid was in the placebo arm IIRC.

10 total, 9 in placebo, 1 in the active arm.