Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by daquix

Kelly was reporting what Florio said on his show. Florio said that he spoke to people within league circles that prefer Allen over Mahomes.

This is a league where people still hire Patriots assistants...let's not act like there are smart people on every team.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This is a league where people still hire Patriots assistants...let's not act like there are smart people on every team.

I’m certainly not.

Is interesting though, some people think Mahomes is a HOF’er already, meanwhile people in league circles prefer Allen over him.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by daquix

I’m certainly not.

Is interesting though, some people think Mahomes is a HOF’er already, meanwhile people in league circles prefer Allen over him.

What's so interesting about that? The people in the latter group are clearly idiots.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

What's so interesting about that? The people in the latter group are clearly idiots.

Shows there is no real concensus yet.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by daquix

Shows there is no real concensus yet.

No real concensus? One has won an mvp, superbowl and superbowl mvp with a 50 td season and the best passer rating in history whilst breaking several records. And the other has one good season and in his only playoff game chocked away a 16 point lead whilst trying to throw a backwards pass. Oh, and to add a cherry on top Mahomes went to Allen's house this season and beat his ass. But hey..."some folks in the league prefer Allen" .

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

No real concensus? One has won an mvp, superbowl and superbowl mvp with a 50 td season and the best passer rating in history whilst breaking several records. And the other has one good season and in his only playoff game chocked away a 16 point lead whilst trying to throw a backwards pass. Oh, and to add a cherry on top Mahomes went to Allen's house this season and beat his ass. But hey..."some folks in the league prefer Allen" .

Yep, only a ****ing moron would try to pass this off as a real story.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by daquix

I’m certainly not.

Is interesting though, some people think Mahomes is a HOF’er already, meanwhile people in league circles prefer Allen over him.

Yes, like the Bills who passed on Mahomes so they could play with Nathan Peterman.

Or the Browns or Jets or Jags who passed on him. They are geniuses.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by daquix

I’m certainly not.

Is interesting though, some people think Mahomes is a HOF’er already, meanwhile people in league circles prefer Allen over him.

That's it. Florio is a Patriots guy. Don't know why, but just remembered it. He also is a Mangini fan.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the sources was either Mangini or another Patriots employee/former employee.

And last season Mangini made a big deal out of Patrick's dislocated knee. He kept harping on how it showed that Mahomes was too fragile to play for long in the NFL. He even said that the 49ers DL would probably knock Patrick out of the SB, because 'Mahomes is injury-prone,' about a week before the game.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

That's it. Florio is a Patriots guy. Don't know why, but just remembered it. He also is a Mangini fan.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the sources was either Mangini or another Patriots employee/former employee.

And last season Mangini made a big deal out of Patrick's dislocated knee. He kept harping on how it showed that Mahomes was too fragile to play for long in the NFL. He even said that the 49ers DL would probably knock Patrick out of the SB, because 'Mahomes is injury-prone,' about a week before the game.

The Patriots way jackoffs are still badmouthing Brady after he won them all those Super Bowls and claiming it was all their genius and system.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

The Patriots way jackoffs are still badmouthing Brady after he won them all those Super Bowls and claiming it was all their genius and system.

Turns out Brady was better than the system. Maybe.

As a matter of fact, I don't hate Florio. He's not a complete jackass like Mangini. I think he's basically a foil for Chris Simms, but underneath that he might be pretty football smart.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

That's it. Florio is a Patriots guy. Don't know why, but just remembered it. He also is a Mangini fan.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the sources was either Mangini or another Patriots employee/former employee.

And last season Mangini made a big deal out of Patrick's dislocated knee. He kept harping on how it showed that Mahomes was too fragile to play for long in the NFL. He even said that the 49ers DL would probably knock Patrick out of the SB, because 'Mahomes is injury-prone,' about a week before the game.

Can confirm he’s always seemed to like his Patriots & Brady.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by daquix

Can confirm he’s always seemed to like his Patriots & Brady.

Yeah, but at least he's not a frothing-at-the-mouth Belichick lapdog, like Eric Mangini. he might be a true Patriots fan, but he mostly keeps it on the down low. Mostly.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by daquix

I’m certainly not.

Is interesting though, some people think Mahomes is a HOF’er already, meanwhile people in league circles prefer Allen over him.

Not really... an entire half of the league probably doesn't spend tons of time watching either one. Then you have recency bias for teams that have played the Bills this season, plus the rest of the AFCE that saw him twice.

And coming up with how Allen is bigger and potentially more durable tells the story of very high level analysis or thinking their ceilings are similar and they think Allen might last longer in the league because Mahomes got hurt that one time last season.

Every good QB will be talked about as "is he the next Mahomes"... and sports media exists to create hype, and they want someone to be Mahomes' rival.

A year ago "sources" were saying Lamar > Mahomes and next year it'll be someone new.