Suggested Post-Draft Free Agents & Trade Ideas?

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

I would be very surprised if we did anything at WR or RB other than a ring chaser like Bell last year. We are not signing Julio Jones with that massive contract. There's a slim chance he gets cut after the June deadline to save the Falcons approx. 15 million in space, then maybe on a skinny deal. We are fine at RB as well with this no O-line, but again, someone cheap could always be added. I agree with others on here Breeland and Ingram if they like the price were offering are probably Veach's current priorities.

There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.

He's also injured a lot, would cost $15M, and would be option #3 at 15M a year. No way I would take him unless the draft compensation was low, ATL ate a huge portion of that salary, or he was willing to renegotiate at a much smaller salary. Don't think all that will happen, so it's a hard pass on him here.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.

I stand corrected, I had read a piece wrong, if they cut him they have an additional $15 million in dead money and they are in cap hell already. However, I don't think anyone will want to pick up that contract, especially the Chiefs... injury concerns or not. I think he may go for a 3rd or 4th round pick at the best if traded, and the Falcons may just restructure his current deal and keep him, if that's all they can get. JMO

[oldman]

I'm OK with going with what we have at RB until we see what we have with Williams coming back. If he doesn't produce, buh-bye. The same goes for both LDT and Long. All I can say is I NEVER want to see Remmers at LT again. I don't see us spending a lot of cash on someone like Jones as a WR. There's a couple already on the expanded roster I'd like to see.
I looked at the latest cap figures and it looks like we have about $9.8M today. The latest number I've seen to sign our draft picks is about $5M, so I'd bring Breeland back at the $3M he made last year. I know Veach can always play with contracts, especially Mathieu's, but let's not go to the brink again until we see what holes we really do have.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by oldman

I'm OK with going with what we have at RB until we see what we have with Williams coming back. If he doesn't produce, buh-bye. The same goes for both LDT and Long. All I can say is I NEVER want to see Remmers at LT again. I don't see us spending a lot of cash on someone like Jones as a WR. There's a couple already on the expanded roster I'd like to see.
I looked at the latest cap figures and it looks like we have about $9.8M today. The latest number I've seen to sign our draft picks is about $5M, so I'd bring Breeland back at the $3M he made last year. I know Veach can always play with contracts, especially Mathieu's, but let's not go to the brink again until we see what holes we really do have.

Thuney would be LT2 I would guess, as they went so far as to say they could play him there before they got OBJ.

So we'd have to be down to LT3 to see a possibility of Remmers there, and even then I'm not sure we would.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Thuney would be LT2 I would guess, as they went so far as to say they could play him there before they got OBJ.

So we'd have to be down to LT3 to see a possibility of Remmers there, and even then I'm not sure we would.

I agree except I hope we don't have to worry about that. However, that scenario pretty much locks Allegretti in as LG2/C2 or 3. Like I said earlier, Allegretti isn't going anywhere soon. Even if Smith turns out great, it's different footwork from RG to LG. An experienced pro can handle that, but a rookie --that's just way too much to ask today.

[duncan_idaho]

Step 1: Extend Tyrann Mathieu and free up some more 2021 cap room

Step 2: Sign a veteran DE. I don't care if it's Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston or Ryan Kerrigan. Add a vet to the mix to start opposite Clark.


Step 3: Re-sign Bashad Breeland. It's the best fit for him and for the team.

Step 4: Sign a veteran WR. I really like Dede Westbook and think he could give them some juice at WR2, if he's recovered. His knee injury was pretty devastating... but he's a nice fit for this offense if he's back to what he was.

No thanks on Larry Fitzgerald, who is cooked, but Tate would be interesting.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Step 1: Extend Tyrann Mathieu and free up some more 2021 cap room

Step 2: Sign a veteran DE. I don't care if it's Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston or Ryan Kerrigan. Add a vet to the mix to start opposite Clark.


Step 3: Re-sign Bashad Breeland. It's the best fit for him and for the team.

Step 4: Sign a veteran WR. I really like Dede Westbook and think he could give them some juice at WR2, if he's recovered. His knee injury was pretty devastating... but he's a nice fit for this offense if he's back to what he was.

No thanks on Larry Fitzgerald, who is cooked, but Tate would be interesting.

I wouldn't be opposed to Tate, but I think I'd go with someone like Westbrook and roll with what they've got at WR.

I would love Houston at DE opposite Clark. He seems like an ideal DE in this scheme. I would guess that bridge is burned.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Step 1: Extend Tyrann Mathieu and free up some more 2021 cap room

Step 2: Sign a veteran DE. I don't care if it's Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston or Ryan Kerrigan. Add a vet to the mix to start opposite Clark.


Step 3: Re-sign Bashad Breeland. It's the best fit for him and for the team.

Step 4: Sign a veteran WR. I really like Dede Westbook and think he could give them some juice at WR2, if he's recovered. His knee injury was pretty devastating... but he's a nice fit for this offense if he's back to what he was.

No thanks on Larry Fitzgerald, who is cooked, but Tate would be interesting.

I mean... just all of this. Including the avatar.

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.

I want a healthy wide receiver, so... not everything.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I mean... just all of this. Including the avatar.




I want a healthy wide receiver, so... not everything.

Id be okay taking a "gamble" on a guy that has EARNED his stripes. He is a future 1st ballot HOFer for a reason. Entering next year he is a top five WR in this league.

Golden Tate, Dede Westbrook, that crap isn't going to move the needle whatsoever. If that is what some of you are asking for I guess I'd prefer to just stand pat with Hardman, Robinson, Pringle as your second tier options dont need to waste more money for another JAG receiver.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

Id be okay taking a "gamble" on a guy that has EARNED his stripes. He is a future 1st ballot HOFer for a reason. Entering next year he is a top five WR in this league.

Golden Tate, Dede Westbrook, that crap isn't going to move the needle whatsoever. If that is what some of you are asking for I guess I'd prefer to just stand pat with Hardman, Robinson, Pringle as your second tier options dont need to waste more money for another JAG receiver.

Whoever you bring in is option #3. You can still get a good one for cheaper than Julio.

[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Whoever you bring in is option #3. You can still get a good one for cheaper than Julio.

I dont think there is much out there in the free agent market that has more to offer than Robinson as a third option. He knows the offense and has built good rapport with Mahomes. Just spend that $ on defense.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

I mean to be fair we went 7-0 without Watkins last year and averaged 33.1 PPG....

[saphojunkie]

I don't think we need the needle moved that much when it comes to the third receiver, or even second receiver. Mecole Hardman HAS to know that this is a make or break year for him. Even Mahomes called him out on twitter when they drafted Powell.

It's so funny how everyone was clamoring for us to take a WR in the second round. I'm like... uh... we just did. How about he steps up and runs good routes, then this isn't an issue?

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I don't think we need the needle moved that much when it comes to the third receiver, or even second receiver. Mecole Hardman HAS to know that this is a make or break year for him. Even Mahomes called him out on twitter when they drafted Powell.

It's so funny how everyone was clamoring for us to take a WR in the second round. I'm like... uh... we just did. How about he steps up and runs good routes, then this isn't an issue?

People seem to have given up on Hardman. I haven't.

Remember, he was 21 his rookie year so he's now the same age as Tyreek was before his yr 2 breakout.

Hardman also didn't have OTAs and a truncated camp/preseason in 2020 that probably hurt his development. If you watched Kurt Warner's breakdown of the SB, you'll see one play in particular that if Hardman cut upfield he likely would have gotten a TD.

Harman really needs to work on the mental side of route adjustments as well as sharpening his cuts.