Dean Spanos forced to sell Chargers?

[Kiimo]

This is amazing.

Imagine owning a company that prints money for every other owner, in a stadium you didn't even build and still you bounce charity checks.


Watch Jeff Bezos buy this team and move it back to San Diego where he doesn't have to rent out a stadium to a competitor. This is all over the radio in LA right now.

I don't think Fredo would have done worse in the family business ..it's about time we quit insulting Fredo by using his name to refer to Dean@sdutCanepa pic.twitter.com/Vnh7LcPJFc

— Burt Grossman (@burt_grossman) May 25, 2021

[BryanBusby]

The Rams are like if you told poster JakeF to run an NFL franchise like he was Brett Veach.

Would get basic gist of it, but there's no real strategy in place because they operate basically day to day.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

The Rams are like if you told poster JakeF to run an NFL franchise like he was Brett Veach.

Would get basic gist of it, but there's no real strategy in place because they operate basically day to day.

Yeah, they’ve basically adopted their strategy from the Dodgers and Yankees, which is sign and trade for superstars but have the organizational structure in place to draft and develop well.

Quite honestly, that about the only way a franchise in LA can exist: Load it with superstars that actually want to be in the entertainment capital of the world.

[FlintHillsChiefs]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Why not Salt Lake City?

There's a huge Charger's following in Utah and Oregon.

Almost double the size of Green Bay with a much larger metro area.

I'm sorry... wut?

No one gives a shit about San Diego in SLC.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by tredadda

At this point, the best option might be for new ownership to try and heal the relationship with SD. Not sure if that ship has sailed and the relationship is beyond repair, but at this point its better than options like Omaha and Columbus and Orlando and Portland etc....

San Diego is just not a good sports town. Sure they’ll show up when the teams winning, but SD is also a big military town which means a significant part of its population is transient. Throw in the best weather in the country and a million better things to do on a Sunday and the Chargers have to compete with going to the donkey show in TJ.

[RealSNR]

How about London, since the Jaguars appear to be too chickenshit for the move?

"Pip pip cheerio bob's your uncle... young mister Justin 'Ehbeht is a waste o' me Sunday tea time if he can't ever bloody beat Sir Patrick at colony football!"

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

San Diego is just not a good sports town. Sure they’ll show up when the teams winning, but SD is also a big military town which means a significant part of its population is transient. Throw in the best weather in the country and a million better things to do on a Sunday and the Chargers have to compete with going to the donkey show in TJ.

Understand, but they are a bigger city with a history with the team. If they did not have that history, I would fully agree that they are an awful choice. It's that history that gives them the edge over all the other places mentioned who are also either smaller, or just poor fits due to geography.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

San Antonio's problem is lack of major corporations in the city.

That's a problem everywhere outside of the top 30 markets or so.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Understand, but they are a bigger city with a history with the team. If they did not have that history, I would fully agree that they are an awful choice. It's that history that gives them the edge over all the other places mentioned who are also either smaller, or just poor fits due to geography.

Yeah but the history just isn't good and it's only in the minds of those who watch the Chargers on TV. The old stadium was hardly ever sold out because the people that live in San Diego just didn't care about football enough to show up in droves every Sunday.

They never had a parking lot filled with people grilling and drinking like at Arrowhead and the actual core fan base there was very small. When a hotel and car rental tax was proposed to build a new downtown stadium for the Chargers a few years back, it was easily defeated. Contrast that to the hotel and car rental tax that was proposed (and approved) for Arrowhead renovations. It passed and the stadium received nearly $400 million in upgrades.

San Diego isn't a sports town, period. The Chargers are a shit franchise run by a broke ass family whose only wealth is in the franchise itself. Los Angeles doesn't want them, nor does San Diego. They're stuck in LA for the next 20 years and if they did attempt to move again, the new owners would have to pay yet another $650 million dollar Relocation Fee.

They should have moved to Las Vegas and shared the Raiders stadium but that is no longer an option.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah but the history just isn't good and it's only in the minds of those who watch the Chargers on TV. The old stadium was hardly ever sold out because the people that live in San Diego just didn't care about football enough to show up in droves every Sunday.

They never had a parking lot filled with people grilling and drinking like at Arrowhead and the actual core fan base there was very small. When a hotel and car rental tax was proposed to build a new downtown stadium for the Chargers a few years back, it was easily defeated. Contrast that to the hotel and car rental tax that was proposed (and approved) for Arrowhead renovations. It passed and the stadium received nearly $400 million in upgrades.

San Diego isn't a sports town, period. The Chargers are a shit franchise run by a broke ass family whose only wealth is in the franchise itself. Los Angeles doesn't want them, nor does San Diego. They're stuck in LA for the next 20 years and if they did attempt to move again, the new owners would have to pay yet another $650 million dollar Relocation Fee.

They should have moved to Las Vegas and shared the Raiders stadium but that is no longer an option.

Kansas City used hotel and rental car tax increase to fund Sprint Center which is now T-Moblie Center.

Jackson County used 3/8 cent sales tax increase to fund improvements to the K and Arrowhead.

A business use tax would have funded rolling roof that could cover either stadium, but that did not get majority vote.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah but the history just isn't good and it's only in the minds of those who watch the Chargers on TV. The old stadium was hardly ever sold out because the people that live in San Diego just didn't care about football enough to show up in droves every Sunday.

They never had a parking lot filled with people grilling and drinking like at Arrowhead and the actual core fan base there was very small. When a hotel and car rental tax was proposed to build a new downtown stadium for the Chargers a few years back, it was easily defeated. Contrast that to the hotel and car rental tax that was proposed (and approved) for Arrowhead renovations. It passed and the stadium received nearly $400 million in upgrades.

San Diego isn't a sports town, period. The Chargers are a shit franchise run by a broke ass family whose only wealth is in the franchise itself. Los Angeles doesn't want them, nor does San Diego. They're stuck in LA for the next 20 years and if they did attempt to move again, the new owners would have to pay yet another $650 million dollar Relocation Fee.

They should have moved to Las Vegas and shared the Raiders stadium but that is no longer an option.

Perhaps you are right. I am basing everything off of what I grew up seeing on TV. I thought I remembered hearing that part of the issues with the city and the franchise was the hatred the city had for the Spanos family.

Well if they are truly stuck in LA then hopefully they can get competent enough ownership to market them in the city along with a quality enough product that perhaps LA can buy into them. If not, I don't at this point see a viable long term location for them.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's a problem everywhere outside of the top 30 markets or so.

That is true

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Perhaps you are right. I am basing everything off of what I grew up seeing on TV. I thought I remembered hearing that part of the issues with the city and the franchise was the hatred the city had for the Spanos family.

Well if they are truly stuck in LA then hopefully they can get competent enough ownership to market them in the city along with a quality enough product that perhaps LA can buy into them. If not, I don't at this point see a viable long term location for them.

It's never going to happen in Los Angeles for the Chargers. They're not a Los Angeles team and they'll never be a Los Angeles team.

As I mentioned earlier, the unlike the Tennessee Titans or Indianapolis Colts or Baltimore Ravens, the Chargers aren't filling a void. 100,000 fans routinely pack the Coliseum for USC games and more than 90,000 routinely pack the Rose Bowl for UCLA games. 35,000+ show up at Dodgers stadium every game and Staples is packed for the Lakers. The city is excited about the Rams at Sofi but no one even speaks of the Chargers because no one cares.

There's just no passion for the Chargers in Los Angeles and even if there was a little passion, most people would rather sit at a bar on the beach and watch them on TV as opposed to shelling out $500-$1000 dollars to sit in a stadium filled with opposing fans.

That franchise is ****ed.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

That is true

Even in the big markets, there's so much global consolidation.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jettio

Kansas City used hotel and rental car tax increase to fund Sprint Center which is now T-Moblie Center.

Jackson County used 3/8 cent sales tax increase to fund improvements to the K and Arrowhead.

A business use tax would have funded rolling roof that could cover either stadium, but that did not get majority vote.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2397151

Kansas City OKs sales tax for sports renovations

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Voters on Tuesday split on a pair of measures to pay for upgrades to Kansas City's sports stadiums, approving a sales tax for renovations but rejecting a plan for a rolling roof to make both facilities climate-controlled. The measures in Jackson County were designed to raise more than $500 million to renovate Kauffman Stadium, where baseball's Kansas City Royals play, and Arrowhead Stadium, the home of the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs.

Voters supporting the tax increases feared the teams might leave without the improvements. Opponents decried giving aid to millionaire team owners. A three-eighth-cent sales tax will raise $425 million over 25 years to renovate the stadiums and add such amenities as a pavilion behind the baseball stadium.

A separate user tax would have generated about $200 million for the rolling roof. With all precincts reporting, the sales tax won by about 5,000 votes, while the roof plan failed by under 4,000 votes. The teams' owners have pledged, together, more than $125 million toward the renovations.
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Later, The Hunt Family threw in nearly $100 million more for renovations out of their own pocket.

I clearly remember when this happened because the first time I rented a car while visiting in 2009, I couldn't ****ing believe the taxes! I paid like $199 for an SUV for the week but paid like $150 in taxes alone.

From that perspective, I totally understand why a city like San Diego, which thrives via tourism, would reject a car rental and hotel tax to build a stadium for the shitty-ass Spanos family.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's never going to happen in Los Angeles for the Chargers. They're not a Los Angeles team and they'll never be a Los Angeles team.

As I mentioned earlier, the unlike the Tennessee Titans or Indianapolis Colts or Baltimore Ravens, the Chargers aren't filling a void. 100,000 fans routinely pack the Coliseum for USC games and more than 90,000 routinely pack the Rose Bowl for UCLA games. 35,000+ show up at Dodgers stadium every game and Staples is packed for the Lakers. The city is excited about the Rams at Sofi but no one even speaks of the Chargers because no one cares.

There's just no passion for the Chargers in Los Angeles and even if there was a little passion, most people would rather sit at a bar on the beach and watch them on TV as opposed to shelling out $500-$1000 dollars to sit in a stadium filled with opposing fans.

That franchise is ****ed.

I do not think there will ever be passion for the chargers in LA.
So time to move to Oakland, London, Mexico City. (or omaha )
Or retract them.