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Old 06-01-2021, 07:20 AM  
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Mahomes wants 20-0
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"The only record I have my eyes set on breaking, which would be new this year, would be going 20-0," Mahomes said. "It's not really a record to be broken I guess you would say—19-0 is the record right now—so being able to go 20-0 and being the first one to do that, that would be awesome."
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:11 PM   #91
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You'd rather lose more games over the course of the season than you win?

You're a strange "fan".
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:11 PM   #92
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And yet going undefeated remains a completely unrewarded event. The whole discussion is stupid.
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:12 PM   #93
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You'd rather lose more games over the course of the season than you win?

You're a strange "fan".
Your hypothetical ended with a Super Bowl LOSS in both scenarios.

You're not even on topic.

That's why I'm laughing. At you.
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:13 PM   #94
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If Patrick Mahomes' only accomplishment for the rest of his career is going undefeated one time and never winning another Super Bowl, he'll go down in history with guys like Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly.

That's quite the accomplishment.
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If Patrick Mahomes' only accomplishment for the rest of his career is going undefeated one time and never winning another Super Bowl, he'll go down in history with guys like Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly.

That's quite the accomplishment.
Yeah, I get having that on your goal poster... but, it's not incredibly realistic in this day and age. Too much self imposed stress to finish perfect. It's all about the ring, few care how many wins you got along the way.
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20–0 would be amazing. If there is anyone that can pull it off, it's Mahomes.
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That Colts loss from a couple of years ago convinced me to never keep your hopes up when it comes to wanting an undefeated season. Just see how the season plays out and if it happens, let's just see it happen instead of anticipating or predicting it to happen.
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Yeah, I get having that on your goal poster... but, it's not incredibly realistic in this day and age. Too much self imposed stress to finish perfect. It's all about the ring, few care how many wins you got along the way.
If a team goes undefeated, everybody will "care". Would we talk about the 72 dolphins if they had lost one game in the regular season? Going undefeated gives you a pretty ironclad claim to being the greatest team in league history.
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If a team goes undefeated, everybody will "care". Would we talk about the 72 dolphins if they had lost one game in the regular season? Going undefeated gives you a pretty ironclad claim to being the greatest team in league history.
To truly go undefeated, you have to win a championship. Without that championship at the end, it's a footnote and nothing more.
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This is interesting...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_season
The best start from an NFL team who failed to complete a perfect regular season is shared by two teams:

the 2009 Indianapolis Colts, who started 14–0 before losing their final two regular season games to the New York Jets and the Buffalo Bills to finish 14–2

the 2015 Carolina Panthers, who went 14–0 before losing to the Atlanta Falcons and going on to finish the regular season 15–1.
Four other teams have started 13–0 before losing their fourteenth game: the 1998 Denver Broncos, 2005 Indianapolis Colts, 2009 New Orleans Saints and 2011 Green Bay Packers.

We all know about the 16-0 Patriots finishing 1 game shy of the SB at 18-1

'84 49ers, '85 Bears and '07 Patriots tie for the most total wins (18) in a season through the SB.
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:25 PM   #101
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To truly go undefeated, you have to win a championship. Without that championship at the end, it's a footnote and nothing more.
Well, yeah. I believe Mahomes said 20-0, which would include a Super Bowl win.
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:27 PM   #102
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Well, yeah. I believe Mahomes said 20-0, which would include a Super Bowl win.
Of course but that's not where we are at in the discussion. BWillie took us down the path of talking about an either/or scenario.

Of course, if you can can go 20-0, that's an amazing accomplishment.

BWillie said going 18-1 is a bigger accomplishment than winning a Super Bowl.

In a veritable sea of bad takes on CP over the years, his ranks up there with the very worst.
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Of course but that's not where we are at in the discussion. BWillie took us down the path of talking about an either/or scenario.

Of course, if you can can go 20-0, that's an amazing accomplishment.

BWillie said going 18-1 is a bigger accomplishment than winning a Super Bowl.

In a veritable sea of bad takes on CP over the years, his ranks up there with the very worst.
I missed that take, but if that's the case I agree. For me the only interesting discussion is "rest/no rest" if you get to 15-0/16-0. The Patriots were very open that they were going for undefeated and played all 16 games. If I had to guess I think Andy would do the same.
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If Patrick Mahomes' only accomplishment for the rest of his career is going undefeated one time and never winning another Super Bowl, he'll go down in history with guys like Fran Tarkenton and Jim Kelly.

That's quite the accomplishment.
He’ll never be in their company, because he has a ring
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This is why I put the stuff in parentheses.

Are we talking about the Super Bowl that took place in 1971 (following the 1970 season) or are we talking about the 1971 season, whose Super Bowl took place in 1972?

Just use the Roman numerals.
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