***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[R Clark]

What’s a dudebro?is it as contagious as Covid? I’ve listened to a couple of his podcasts and don’t want to come down with any weird shit

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I swear if Joe Rogan would just go all in on the vaccine, 20 million dudebros would sign up for the jab tomorrow. He has to be the most influential voice among men in America.

Or Trump

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by R Clark

What’s a dudebro?is it as contagious as Covid? I’ve listened to a couple of his podcasts and don’t want to come down with any weird shit

Did you feel like wearing an Affliction or Tapout t-shirt afterwards?

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by stevieray

great pic for the article...

Horrible propaganda.

It's disheartening to watch people push the vaccine under the pretense of the well being of others, only to watch them flip and jump at the chance to "blame" them with no compassion.

It's your choice to not get the vaccine.


But you're a shithead if you don't, and I will treat you like one.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

88% is pretty ****ing good.

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah I’d say that’s pretty good

Still curious about the data that came out from Israel. I've seen a lot of critiques about it, but happy to see the vaccines are performing well.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

It's your choice to not get the vaccine.

But you're a shithead if you don't, and I will treat you like one.

Oh for crying out loud.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

It's your choice to not get the vaccine.


But you're a shithead if you don't, and I will treat you like one.

Sorry, but that makes you the doody dude.

[O.city]

One of my close dentist friends here in town was hospitalized for 4 days then went home last week. He’s been on oxygen for about 8 days now. Slowly improving.

38 year old. Hopefully he continues to improve. Wasn’t vaccinated for whatever personal reasons.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

It's your choice to not get the vaccine.


But you're a shithead if you don't, and I will treat you like one.

I'm not sure about being a shithead. Just uneducated/dumb.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I'm not sure about being a shithead. Just uneducated/dumb.

Whatever makes you feel better.

It's about you and your feelings, after all.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

This quote make sense to anyone here?

I think its from a lifetime movie about AIDS or something.

[Marcellus]

We are seeing a fairly decent bump in people getting vaccinated here locally, its a bit late but better late than never I guess.

It also appears the spike we saw last week may be on the downslope now. The numbers appear to be dropping. I'm guessing the spike was related to 4th of July gatherings.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

We are seeing a fairly decent bump in people getting vaccinated here locally, its a bit late but better late than never I guess.

It also appears the spike we saw last week may be on the downslope now. The numbers appear to be dropping. I'm guessing the spike was related to 4th of July gatherings.

For college-aged people, there is some motivation to get vaccinated. I know my son's school they have a different set of rules for vaccinated/unvaccinated. They'll be doing contact tracing, and if somebody tests positive all contacts are quarantined for 14 days, unless they are vaccinated.

My workplace is going to begin returning to the office, but only if vaccinated. People don't lose their job for being unvaccinated, but they just can't come into the office.

If somebody is really dug in against the vaccine, policies like these aren't likely to change their mind, but for those who don't really care either way these motivations definitely drive people to just get it done.

[O.city]

Real-world data out of Canada shows overall vaccine effectiveness (both doses) against symptomatic infection:

•AstraZeneca: 88%
•Moderna: 92%
•Pfizer: 90%

Overall against Variants of Concern:
•Alpha (B.1.1.7): 91%
•Delta (B.1.617.2): 85%
•Gamma (P.1): 89%

— Chise �������� (@sailorrooscout) July 22, 2021

Good data from real world study out of Canada

[suzzer99]

Antivaxxers are calling themselves something, anything else on Facebook.

Once they change their group name, the adapt their whole vocabulary to fit it.

Here’s a list of codewords for the group of people who don’t “go dancing” — or won’t get the vaxx.

Pizza. Beer. Moana. pic.twitter.com/DhEsBvE9vL

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) July 22, 2021