***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

https://www.mississippifreepress.org...reat-covid-19/

I can't believe people would actually be that stupid.

[eDave]

City of Phoenix sending out vans with COVID vaccines, testing

[wazu]

Originally Posted by eDave

City of Phoenix sending out vans with COVID vaccines, testing

Cool.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by loochy

Ivermectin has not been approved by the FDA for use in treating or preventing COVID 19

Yeah, well neither have any of the vaccines (yet)

Just saying

You want to inject that into your system, go right ahead. Encourage as many folks as you like.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

You want to inject that into your system, go right ahead. Encourage as many folks as you like.

I don't.

But the "not approved by the FDA" argument is a bit comical.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by loochy

I don't.

But the "not approved by the FDA" argument is a bit comical.

What argument? Inject away, FFS.

That goes for pool cleaner as well.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by eDave

City of Phoenix sending out vans with COVID vaccines, testing

Oh yeah, that will really work.

Listen, the number of people that haven't gotten a vaccine because they lack access is astoundingly small. The people that aren't vaccinated aren't vaccinated because they don't want to be.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by loochy

Oh yeah, that will really work.

Listen, the number of people that haven't gotten a vaccine because they lack access is astoundingly small. The people that aren't vaccinated aren't vaccinated because they don't want to be.

I'm here for this. pic.twitter.com/GABaLDmEbZ

— Travon Free (@Travon) August 11, 2021

[WhawhaWhat]

Kawasaki disease is the scariest! Seriously, this is what I talk about when I say I do risk assessment. I have a very low risk of A) getting COVID, and B) dying of it if I do. Why would I risk getting heart attack or paralysis by getting the vaccine?

— Phil Valentine (@ValentineShow) December 8, 2020

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by loochy

Oh yeah, that will really work.

Listen, the number of people that haven't gotten a vaccine because they lack access is astoundingly small. The people that aren't vaccinated aren't vaccinated because they don't want to be.

Or maybe they are still trying to gather more info to find what is best for them. I don't think yelling or shaming people to get vaxed is very effective....in fact likely quite the opposite. Just encourage all to have a discussion with their PMD`s and go from there.

I respect whatever choice one makes. It's a personal decision.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by loochy

Oh yeah, that will really work.

Listen, the number of people that haven't gotten a vaccine because they lack access is astoundingly small. The people that aren't vaccinated aren't vaccinated because they don't want to be.

Ceasing to try is a bad option.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Or maybe they are still trying to gather more info to find what is best for them. I don't think yelling or shaming people to get vaxed is very effective....in fact likely quite the opposite. Just encourage all to have a discussion with their PMD`s and go from there.

I respect whatever choice one makes. It's a personal decision.

I'm not sure what good a conversation would do. They've likely seen the data and fully understand that the vaccine isn't going to hurt them. What more could one possibly say to someone like that?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by loochy

Ivermectin has not been approved by the FDA for use in treating or preventing COVID 19

Yeah, well neither have any of the vaccines (yet)

Just saying

That's a little disingenuous, but sure, if you want to play semantics. There's a pretty big difference between "this is conditionally approved because we're 99% sure it works but need more data to be 100% sure" and "we shouldn't have to tell people not to take horse pills," though.

I'm very curious if the full approval is truly the reason some people are hesitating. I'm pretty skeptical, but I guess we'll see what happens after Monday's (probable) approval.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Kawasaki disease is the scariest! Seriously, this is what I talk about when I say I do risk assessment. I have a very low risk of A) getting COVID, and B) dying of it if I do. Why would I risk getting heart attack or paralysis by getting the vaccine?

— Phil Valentine (@ValentineShow) December 8, 2020

You hate to see it.

[Chief Pagan]

Cyndy O’Brien, an emergency room nurse at Ocean Springs Hospital on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, could not believe her eyes as she arrived for work. There were people sprawled out in their cars gasping for air as three ambulances with gravely ill patients idled in the parking lot. Just inside the front doors, a crush of anxious people jostled to get the attention of an overwhelmed triage nurse.

“It’s like a war zone,” said Ms. O’Brien, who is the patient care coordinator at Singing River, a small health system near the Alabama border that includes Ocean Springs. “We are just barraged with patients and have nowhere to put them.”

The bottleneck, however, has little to do with a lack of space. Nearly 30 percent of Singing River’s 500 beds are empty. With 169 unfilled nursing positions, administrators must keep the beds empty.

Nursing shortages have long vexed hospitals. But in the year and a half since its ferocious debut in the United States, the coronavirus pandemic has stretched the nation’s nurses as never before, testing their skills and stamina as desperately ill patients with a poorly understood malady flooded emergency rooms. They remained steadfast amid a calamitous shortage of personal protective equipment; spurred by a sense of duty, they flocked from across the country to the newest hot zones, sometimes working as volunteers. More than 1,200 of them have died from the virus.

The staffing shortages have a hospital-wide domino effect. When hospitals lack nurses to treat those who need less intensive care, emergency rooms and I.C.U.s are unable to move out patients, creating a traffic jam that limits their ability to admit new ones. One in five I.C.U.s are at least 95 percent capacity, according to an analysis by The New York Times, a level experts say makes it difficult to maintain standards of care for the very sick.

Oregon’s governor has ordered 1,500 National Guard troops to help tapped-out hospital staff. Officials in a Florida county where hospitals are over capacity are urging residents “to consider other options” before calling 911. And a Houston man with six gunshot wounds had to wait a week before Harris Health, one of the country’s largest hospital systems, could fit him in for surgery to repair a shattered shoulder.

“If it’s a broken ankle that needs a pin, it’s going to have to wait. Our nurses are working so hard, but they can only do so much,” said Maureen Padilla, who oversees nursing at Harris Health. The system has 400 openings for bedside nurses, including 17 that became vacant in the last three weeks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/h...age-delta.html