***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I nominate TLO or O.City if either of them are interested.

Yeah, I second that. Both of them have contributed while being centered and open minded. They both kept their arguments generally data centered and didn't delve into the name calling and shaming nonsense.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Lzen

So I guess the non political part of this thread directive doesn't mean anything?

Nutjobs trying to sneak ivermectin into the hospital is political?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Nutjobs trying to sneak ivermectin into the hospital is political?

Yes, it is.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Hi, guys. So because of the covid situation, I've decided I'm probably not making it to Arrowhead this year. I do have a pair of tickets to the Browns game a few rows behind the Chiefs bench. And I'd like to give the tickets to someone who is vaccinated and has contributed literally anything positive to this thread on that front.

PM me if interested, and if multiple people reach out, I'll draw a name at random.

(Will likely do something for the Bills game as well as I have some tickets there too.)

Tickets for the Browns game are gone.

As for the Bills game, TLO, I have a ticket for you for that one and will reach out with details as we get closer. Prepare for the spectacle of Mahomes up (very) close.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Tickets for the Browns game are gone.

As for the Bills game, TLO, I have a ticket for you for that one and will reach out with details as we get closer. Prepare for the spectacle of Mahomes up (very) close.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I nominate TLO or O.City if either of them are interested.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I can get behind that, but really, I'm open to anyone.

I appreciate the sentiment guys. I broke down and got season tickets this season for the family so I'll already be there. Would love to meet anyone at our tailgate if interested though to put a face to a name.

[O.city]

Impressive new Vaccine Effectiveness Results from Denmark

Infection (Delta)
➡️Pfizer-BioNTech: 84.6% (83.8-85.3)
➡️Moderna: 88.9% (86.6-90.9)

Hospitalization (Delta)
➡️Pfizer-BioNTech: 94.4% (92.5-95.8)
➡️Moderna: 100% (0-100)@sailorrooscout https://t.co/NPTdKbJkY0 pic.twitter.com/8G6g9tC3a0

— Martin Juhl (@MartinJuhl2) September 7, 2021

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Impressive new Vaccine Effectiveness Results from Denmark

Infection (Delta)
➡️Pfizer-BioNTech: 84.6% (83.8-85.3)
➡️Moderna: 88.9% (86.6-90.9)

Hospitalization (Delta)
➡️Pfizer-BioNTech: 94.4% (92.5-95.8)
➡️Moderna: 100% (0-100)@sailorrooscout https://t.co/NPTdKbJkY0 pic.twitter.com/8G6g9tC3a0

— Martin Juhl (@MartinJuhl2) September 7, 2021

What's up with the CI for the Moderna hospitalization number?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by O.city

Impressive new Vaccine Effectiveness Results from Denmark

Infection (Delta)
➡️Pfizer-BioNTech: 84.6% (83.8-85.3)
➡️Moderna: 88.9% (86.6-90.9)

Hospitalization (Delta)
➡️Pfizer-BioNTech: 94.4% (92.5-95.8)
➡️Moderna: 100% (0-100)@sailorrooscout https://t.co/NPTdKbJkY0 pic.twitter.com/8G6g9tC3a0

— Martin Juhl (@MartinJuhl2) September 7, 2021

Unfortunately, I don't think this will make much difference to many folks, including those on CP:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I just don’t get why or how people can defend the vaccine anymore lol

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

What's up with the CI for the Moderna hospitalization number?

There have only been 307 breakthrough infections so far in Denmark out of 539,633 vaccinated with Moderna and of the 307 breakthrough infections, there have been no hospitalizations. Therefore, the large CI reflects the small numbers, it is based on. pic.twitter.com/z6XqMJXKUP

— Martin Juhl (@MartinJuhl2) September 7, 2021

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by notorious

Yes, it is.

No, it's not. That's ridiculous. What does idiots trying to sneak ivermectin into the ICU have to do with politics?

Can we also not talk about people who won't wear masks or take the vaccine? Is that political too?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

No, it's not.

Explain why something covid-related shouldn't be in the covid thread.

Was it posted to illicit a political response?

If not, why was it posted?

If someone were to post positive information about ivermectin, what would the response be?

There are your answers.

I don't give a shit about ivermectin either way, but your comment was out of left field, and is really out of place in this thread.

[suzzer99]

The post was covid-related. Check the thread title.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

The post was covid-related. Check the thread title.

If that's what's allowed we should let DC take a HUGE shit in this thread.

All of the horrible comments in those threads are covid related, so why not?

I thought this thread was made for information, not stirring shit. The massive list of banned posters from this thread is evidence.

[notorious]

Look Suzz, I enjoy your posts. You are a good dude.

That post doesn't belong here, IMO.

Anyway, I'll let the posters that know their shit keep doing their work here. I don't want to derail any further.

Take care, man.