***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Hot off the presses: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7038e3_w

Among other things, if you've already had covid, vaccination is still incredibly beneficial.

Among 233 incarcerated persons, 185 (79%) of whom were fully vaccinated, 172 (74%) received positive SARS-CoV-2 test results during July 12–August 14 (Supplementary Figure, https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/109901). Among a subset of 70 symptomatic persons providing swabs for serial testing, no significant difference was found in the median interval between reported symptom onset and last positive RT-PCR result in vaccinated versus unvaccinated persons (9 versus 11 days, respectively; p = 0.37) (Figure). Virus was cultured from one or more specimens from five of 12 (42%) unvaccinated and 14 of 37 (38%) fully vaccinated persons for whom viral culture was attempted. Genomic sequencing confirmed the AY.3 sublineage of the Delta variant in 58 specimens from 58 persons.

This screams to me that everyone will eventually get covid, vaccinated or not.

Only 3 unvaxxed were hospitalized
Only 1 vaxxed person was hospitalized
Only 1 person died (unvaxxed)

[The Franchise]

Coworker has been in the hospital for two weeks. Just found out today she’s being put on a vent and isn’t expected to make it. Couldn’t get vaccinated because of reactions she’s had in the past.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Coworker has been in the hospital for two weeks. Just found out today she’s being put on a vent and isn’t expected to make it. Couldn’t get vaccinated because of reactions she’s had in the past.

Sorry to hear. Roughly how old?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Sorry to hear. Roughly how old?

60.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Coworker has been in the hospital for two weeks. Just found out today she’s being put on a vent and isn’t expected to make it. Couldn’t get vaccinated because of reactions she’s had in the past.

Dang it, I'm very sorry to hear that :-(

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Sounds like 2-3 Covid anti-viral pills will be ready for EUA by end of year hopefully.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/27/healt...ner/index.html

Merck makes Ivermectin, SAME EXACT company. But they can't profit off Ivermectin nearly as much anymore.



This is hilarious.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

Merck makes Ivermectin, SAME EXACT company. But they can't profit off Ivermectin nearly as much anymore.



This is hilarious.

Ivermectin. The suppressed miracle cure that people are eating horse paste to get. Yet somehow unprofitable...

Perhaps it has something to do with Merck's own admission on the use of Ivermectin to treat covid..

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-sta...d-19-pandemic/

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Fish

Ivermectin. The suppressed miracle cure that people are eating horse paste to get. Yet somehow unprofitable...

Perhaps it has something to do with Merck's own admission on the use of Ivermectin to treat covid..

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-sta...d-19-pandemic/

Never mind that any company would love to churn out an existing product that could be sold to potentially billions of people making their profits skyrocket.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Never mind that any company would love to churn out an existing product that could be sold to potentially billions of people making their profits skyrocket.

It's all part of the conspiracy.

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by Fish

Ivermectin. The suppressed miracle cure that people are eating horse paste to get. Yet somehow unprofitable...

Perhaps it has something to do with Merck's own admission on the use of Ivermectin to treat covid..

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-sta...d-19-pandemic/

You'd have to be pretty dumb to not see where you screwed up.

Or you can look at how India did and/or talk to nurses who dealt with Covid. good luck, soy.

[Monticore]

I never thought that my wife would have been part of a global conspiracy , thanks for opening my eyes numb nuts.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I never thought that my wife would have been part of a global conspiracy , thanks for opening my eyes numb nuts.

That's what I'd expect the husband of a ring leader to say.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

Merck makes Ivermectin, SAME EXACT company. But they can't profit off Ivermectin nearly as much anymore.



This is hilarious.

They don't understand what happens when a product is no longer under patent.

Don't bother.

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

They don't understand what happens when a product is no longer under patent.

Don't bother.

Their reaction was pretty astounding, for adults. Very simple concept.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Do you not know the difference between intra and inter?

You need better reading skills.