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Old 06-06-2019, 04:41 AM  
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What is Trevor Lawrence worth?

I think this kid is the next "generational" QB along with Mahomes....albeit different playing styles. I really hope he gets drafted to the NFC.

His highlight reel...in which he's a freshman, is pretty fantastic. To play like that, a year removed from high school,...yikes.

What is he worth in draft capital?...hypothetically, if the #1 (drafting) team just chose a top QB the year before?

Two entire drafts? 3-4 first round picks?

What would Mahomes go for...if teams knew he was a 50 TD QB?

A generational QB can define your franchise....for like 15 years.
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Old 09-30-2021, 06:01 AM   #106
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He wasn't as good as Burrow or Murray coming out.

Jared Goff 2.0.
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Old 09-30-2021, 06:02 AM   #107
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It was obvious from the start that it was a horrible idea, but Meyer/Baalke have ****ed them up well beyond what I thought they'd be capable of. Disaster hiring.
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Old 09-30-2021, 06:13 AM   #108
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He wasn't as good as Burrow or Murray coming out.

Jared Goff 2.0.
Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields or Mac Jones?
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Old 09-30-2021, 06:24 AM   #109
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Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields or Mac Jones?
Wilson (yes, he is looking bad now too, this is future)
Lance
Fields He needs Nagy fired
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Mac
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Old 09-30-2021, 06:46 AM   #110
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It was obvious from the start that it was a horrible idea, but Meyer/Baalke have ****ed them up well beyond what I thought they'd be capable of. Disaster hiring.
You should know how bad it can get when ego gets in the way. I mean we had Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli back to back for ****s sake.

I haven’t heard shit from Baalke but Meyer has been a total douche the whole time.
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Old 09-30-2021, 07:19 AM   #111
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Baalke was a complete failure. Went into the off season with 74 million in cap space and multiple 1sts and 2nds and came away with damn near nothing to show for it.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:19 AM   #112
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:21 AM   #113
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He’s been absolutely awful.

I think he’ll be alright, but he’s never going to live up to the ridiculous hype.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:35 AM   #114
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He’s been absolutely awful.

I think he’ll be alright, but he’s never going to live up to the ridiculous hype.
I am willing to give him more time. That team drafted #1 for a reason. It doesn't help when their GM drafts a RB in the first when their Oline is as poor as it is. They are gonna get him killed and ruin him if they aren't careful.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:47 AM   #115
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I’m looking forward to seeing him tonight and forming my own judgements, not only him but Meyer as well
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I am willing to give him more time. That team drafted #1 for a reason. It doesn't help when their GM drafts a RB in the first when their Oline is as poor as it is. They are gonna get him killed and ruin him if they aren't careful.
All of the talk about his situation is absolutely true, but it’s not an excuse for the interceptions and his terrible play. He just hasn’t looked even close to “generational”, and never will, because he isn’t.
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All of the talk about his situation is absolutely true, but it’s not an excuse for the interceptions and his terrible play. He just hasn’t looked even close to “generational”, and never will, because he isn’t.
True, but still willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Manning was a generational QB as well and he sucked big time his first year or two. I am willing to give him a pass for now because mistakes will happen. If he is making these same mistakes in Year 3 then there is a problem. For a player that was as highly rated as him, these losses and mistakes are just what he needs. It's been too easy in HS and college when he was the superior athlete and was surrounded by superior talent. Now he's in the NFL. I am fascinated to see how he overcomes this now that he lacks those advantages.
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Situation matters so much in this league. You look at 2 talented QB’s like Lawrence and Wilson and then see the absolute shit teams that ruin them.

Same shit happened to Luck.

The problem with this league isn’t talent it’s coaching and an overrun abomination of shit owners/GM’s
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Old 09-30-2021, 09:17 AM   #119
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People overrated him because of his height and long hair.


Saw even people I respect say, "Well, here Trevor throws the ball right at the safety..

Here Trevor holds the ball too long...Here Trevor panics...but what an amazing prospect!"

So they see the problems but were too afraid to get out of group think.


I doubt Jaguars end up paying his 2nd contract before he gets moved.
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The Jaguars are 11th in pass block win rate.

They have some decent weapons in Marvin Jones, DJ Chark, and Laviska Shenault.

I don’t see how any of that is an excuse for the poor decision making and all around bad play.
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