***Official 2021 STL Cardinals Thread***

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

John Mozeliak has entered King Carl territory.

He's entered Scott Pioli territory.

Walt was King Carl. He rebuilt the organization and was responsible for a significant turnaround. Then he got a bit stale and it was time to move on.

Then came in the new hotness who for a few years coasted on the performance of his underlings and used it to seize control of an organization. And as it turns out, he's a power hungry and incompetent clown who has no ability to self-criticize but has managed to snow the owner into believing he's something more than a snake-oil salesman.

Carl deserves credit for what he accomplished even if he eventually overstayed his welcome. Mozeliak, like Pioli, has never done anything but take credit for the work of others.

**** that mother****er. I hope he goes drinking in the Dominican. Chode.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He's entered Scott Pioli territory.

Walt was King Carl. He rebuilt the organization and was responsible for a significant turnaround. Then he got a bit stale and it was time to move on.

Then came in the new hotness who for a few years coasted on the performance of his underlings and used it to seize control of an organization. And as it turns out, he's a power hungry and incompetent clown who has no ability to self-criticize but has managed to snow the owner into believing he's something more than a snake-oil salesman.

Carl deserves credit for what he accomplished even if he eventually overstayed his welcome. Mozeliak, like Pioli, has never done anything but take credit for the work of others.

**** that mother****er. I hope he goes drinking in the Dominican. Chode.

I dunno man. Mo makes the POs more often than Walt did and hasn’t had a losing season. You could argue this team hasn’t really contended for a WS since 2015 and everything else after that is comparable to King Carl’s latter years.

Walt won a WS his second to last season before getting booted to keep Luhnow.

Mo doesn’t care about winning a WS at this point in his tenure, similar to King Carl near the end just wanting butts in the seats without doing a rebuild. Walt said **** the future if it means contending today.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I dunno man. Mo makes the POs more often than Walt did and hasn’t had a losing season. You could argue this team hasn’t really contended for a WS since 2015 and everything else after that is comparable to King Carl’s latter years.

Walt won a WS his second to last season before getting booted to keep Luhnow.

Mo doesn’t care about winning a WS at this point in his tenure, similar to King Carl near the end just wanting butts in the seats without doing a rebuild. Walt said **** the future if it means contending today.

The major distinction between Pioli and Mozeliak is that Mozeliak took over a recent WS champion with a loaded farm system. Pioli took over a team that Herm Edwards had steered off the cliff.

Can you imagine how bad this team would be had Mozeliak stepped into the same sort of situation Pioli did? No Pujols, Carpenter, Molina or Wainwright? The guy's first managerial hire was Mike !@#$ing Matheny - how's that not stride for stride with Todd Haley for raw stupidity?

Mozeliak is nothing but a product of the labors of smarter men.