Well Spags wants to play Hitchens over Bolton...

[LongSufferingToady]

Steve Spagnuolo on the Chiefs' LB plans as Anthony Hitchens returns: "Hitch, to me, he's the guy that smooths everything out." Says they'll both be in at times, can play together, etc. Says "I don't know if we'll go that route" when asked if Hitchens could play SAM.

— Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) November 4, 2021

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Yes. That is true.

Is it? Chiefs defense under Bob Sutton was top 10 almost every year other than 2018. Top 3 a few years too.

Put Mahomes on the Chiefs starting in 2013 and Sutton has a few rings. We certainly don't lose playoff games like the Titans and the Steelers games.

If Ford has his foot back 1 inch, we're talking about how the 2018 defense turned it around and dominated in the playoffs (depending on the SB outcome). They would have ended that game allowing only 24 points to Tom Brady and forcing him into 3 picks.

But...Dee Ford Dee Forded and here we are...

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by -King-

Is it? Chiefs defense under Bob Sutton was top 10 almost every year other than 2018. Top 3 a few years too.

Put Mahomes on the Chiefs starting in 2013 and Sutton has a few rings. We certainly don't lose playoff games like the Titans and the Steelers games.

If Ford has his foot back 1 inch, we're talking about how the 2018 defense turned it around and dominated in the playoffs (depending on the SB outcome). They would have ended that game allowing only 24 points to Tom Brady and forcing him into 3 picks.

But...Dee Ford Dee Forded and here we are...

I've thought about this a lot and I think we would've won that game if we didn't play Berry. He gave up 3 or 4 HUGE 3rd conversions. Stopping even one of those was probably enough for us to win.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by crispystl

He smooths out the red carpet for the opposing running back to ream our ass for 7 yds a carry.

That's kind of hot, actually.

You ever think of writing porn?!

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by -King-

Is it? Chiefs defense under Bob Sutton was top 10 almost every year other than 2018. Top 3 a few years too.

Put Mahomes on the Chiefs starting in 2013 and Sutton has a few rings. We certainly don't lose playoff games like the Titans and the Steelers games.

If Ford has his foot back 1 inch, we're talking about how the 2018 defense turned it around and dominated in the playoffs (depending on the SB outcome). They would have ended that game allowing only 24 points to Tom Brady and forcing him into 3 picks.

But...Dee Ford Dee Forded and here we are...

This is truly the best and most significant post you ever have posted.

And it's accurate.

Spags' defense is ****ing garbage. Hot ****ing garbage. The only reason his defense was good enough to win 2019 is because the influx of hungry young talent. That's all. Now that they're all fat, paid, complacent, and fighting with the fans when not hurt, out of position, or getting arrested, there's not much defense left.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

That's kind of hot, actually.

You ever think of writing porn?!

I'm a hell of a lot better at it than Hitchens is at playing linebacker!

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by crispystl

I've thought about this a lot and I think we would've won that game if we didn't play Berry. He gave up 3 or 4 HUGE 3rd conversions. Stopping even one of those was probably enough for us to win.

Correct.

[JakeF]

That explains part of the problem with our defense. Spags is another guy who prefers experience to talent. That's just stupid.

That's why Sorenson and Neimann keep getting so many snaps too.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by JakeF

That explains part of the problem with our defense. Spags is another guy who prefers experience to talent. That's just stupid.

That's why Sorenson and Neimann keep getting so many snaps too.

Sorensen averages 20 snaps a game over the last three weeks.

Niemann has only played significant snaps due to injury.

It's not a Spags issue anymore, it's a health issue, and the Chiefs are finally healthy at LB.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

People only think this because Niemann is 220 pounds.

His coverage stats vs Bolton.

325 snaps, 85% cmp pct, 193 yds allowed, 11.4 yd/comp, 1 TD

758 snaps, 79% cmp pct, 242 yds allowed, 11 yd/comp, 0 TD

Niemann is 233 lbs according to the Chiefs website. https://www.chiefs.com/team/players-roster/ben-niemann/

He also had a sack in this year's Titans game. Are some of those snaps ST snaps? Again, not advocating him playing over Bolton, advocating him playing over Hitchens in 3 LB sets.

[Hammock Parties]

Those are defensive snaps only.

Niemann is terrible against the run, so no, keep Hitchens out there.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

You surely understand why, right. We play 3 linebackers unless we move to nickel or dime. Bolton is terrible right now in coverage, and Gay isn't much better despite his pick. Niemann, unfortunately is currently the best option in "coverage" downs, and he gets more ST/Punt snaps, therefore he will get more snaps. Niemann is a good special teams player and a JAG you need on a team where you are paying some large contracts to key players, however, he should not be starting. If we shed Hitchens contract at the end of the year and draft well we should see his snap count decrease and he will actually play the role he should be playing. I understand the frustration, but not the hate towards the player.

Nieman is getting more defensive snaps than both of those players. Those snap percentages are defensive snaps. They don't include ST.

Furthermore, Nieman is absolute trash in coverage and it shows in the stats and the eye test. Dude just looks horrible all the time.

This year, like every single year, he has been shit statistically in coverage.

20 Targets 17 Comp 85.0% Comp Percent 193 Yds 1 TD 123.5 QB Rating 13 air yards and 180 YAC

That is completely ****ing awful.

Compare that to Willie Gay between this year and last year

20 games 11 starts 2 INTs 19 Targets 16 Comp 84% Comp Percent 103 yds 0 TDs 90 QB rating last year 44.8 QB rating this year 40 air yards and 63 YAC

I'd take Willie Gay in coverage over that pile of trash Nieman any day. Nieman shouldn't even be on an NFL roster and Spags being a dip shit that can't admit that he's wrong is the only reason he's playing in the NFL.

[Vladimir_Kyrilytch]

Why did they let Dee Ford lineup offsides all game, only to throw the flag on the play that eliminated Brady.

I blame the rigged refs, not Ford, cause they could have called that foul 100 times but conveniently didnt. I refuse to believe that's just a coincidence.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Nieman is getting more defensive snaps than both of those players.

Defensive snaps in the last two games:

Niemann - 94
Gay - 84
Bolton - 100

Niemann has to play because Hitchens is injured.

Niemann is going back to the bench now and will play ~20 snaps a game in pass defense.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Defensive snaps in the last two games:

Niemann - 94
Gay - 84
Bolton - 100

Niemann has to play because Hitchens is injured.

Niemann is going back to the bench now and will play ~20 snaps a game in pass defense.

I meant this last game. Nieman shouldn't see any snaps in pass defense, because he is absolutely atrocious at defending the pass. He shouldn't be on this team. He also has 10 more snaps than Gay and Gay is much better at defending the pass. Just look at the stats I posted.

Based on those snap counts it looks like Gay is going to be getting less snaps. Not Nieman

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

I meant this last game. Nieman shouldn't see any snaps in pass defense, because he is absolutely atrocious at defending the pass. He shouldn't be on this team.

He's probably better at it than Bolton just due to his length.

Pump the brakes. The Chiefs can survive on defense playing Niemann and Sorensen 20 snaps a game.