Let's talk about the Bengals [and Hamburger Helper]

[TLO]

This one is huge as far as the #1 seed goes.

Let's talk about it.

[crayzkirk]

Don't have many feelings about the Bengals other than 2003 9-0 loss and the 2006 Trent Green cheap shot. The 1989 Super Bowl, where one half of their RB combo went AWOL and the team lost on a last minute drive by Super Joe and the 49ers.

Burrow is going to be good, I think the number of first round QBs in the AFC is one reason Brady left to the NFC and to a second trash division but that's another thread.

I don't have many memories about Cincinnati except from the 1980s when I was working on a programming project for a client there. They talked so fondly of their chili and they sent me a can of it in appreciation of the work I did. Or maybe they sent it because they hated me. I'm not sure what was in the can however it was unlike any chili I had ever eaten. Maybe haggis?

Anyway, hoping for a clean game, no injuries and a Chiefs win. The Bengals can get in by beating up the Browns the next week.

[chiefforlife]

The Steelers D is better than the Bengals D.

Lets not forget our kicker missed a FG and a PAT. We should have hung a 40 burger on the Steelers, with out Kelce and really Tyreek.

[RINGLEADER]

Bengals are totally credible when you look at their stats, with the big difference being Burrow managing almost as many yards as Mahomes with nearly 100 fewer attempts. Earlier in the season he had a real connection with Chase on the long ball (again, Chase has nearly the same yards as Tyreek with 30 fewer receptions) but those long balls got harder to come by in recent weeks based on the stats (the crap Baltimore defensive backfield notwithstanding).

And that's a key caveat to all this -- the Bengals have faced some really awful defenses to amass those stats.

Wins against these teams and their defensive scoring ranking:

Minnesota (23)
Pittsburgh (22)
Jacksonville (27)
Detroit (25)
Baltimore (20)
Oakland (26)
Pittsburgh (22)
Denver (1)
Baltimore (20)

Losses against these teams and their defensive scoring ranking:

Green Bay (14)
Chicago (24)
Cleveland (17)
New York Jets (32)
Los Angeles Chargers (31)
San Francisco (18)

The only outlier is Denver who were trying to win with Drew Lock so, nuff said.

Also, if you look at the games where they played better scoring defenses (above 20th ranking) he not surprisingly had his worst performances, averaging an interception and 4 sacks in each of those games. Dude gets sacked a lot, averaging almost 3 per game on average but against teams capable of rushing 4 he takes a real beating, surrendering 5 or more sacks five times this season.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by TimBone

You football guys cut the shit. This is now a Shrimp Fried Rice/BBQ/Hamburger Helper thread.

Edit: Oh, and also a Carcosa shitting himself thread.

Adding unsweetened chocolate to a meat dish is legit. You see that in Mexican dishes sometimes.

And I could even see cinnamon with it. And nothing wrong with chili on pasta.

But nutmeg and allspice? That's sounding gross.

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Adding unsweetened chocolate to a meat dish is legit. You see that in Mexican dishes sometimes.

And I could even see cinnamon with it. And nothing wrong with chili on pasta.

But nutmeg and allspice? That's sounding gross.

It IS gross. Tastes even worse than you would imagine.

Mole is good stuff if it is made right. It can also be atrocious; sweet mole is vile and unsweetened mole done wrong tastes like dirt. In chili it is overwhelmed by onion and cumin. One of my buds from IN makes his chili with it... primarily used to thicken and color, per his reasoning.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by TimBone

Well...get to it. Give us a review tomorrow!

Shit... maybe this weekend.

I see your internet flex and don't want any part of that!

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Pete Sweeney - Andy Reid confirms all active players on the 53 man roster have passed their covid tests.

Good. Now no more ****ing tests please!!!

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Everyone needs to stop talking shit on Hamburger Helper.

Adding some mushrooms sauteed in butter, and sour cream to the stroganoff version works wonders

[BWillie]

Joe Burrow and his amazing 50 career QBR

Meanwhile Mahomes career QBR is approximately 75

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Great, now im craving a box of cheeseburger helper from my child hood.

Hell I still get a good buzz on and smash some hamburger helper about twice a year.


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[alpha_omega]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

....
Wins against these teams and their defensive scoring ranking:

Minnesota (23)
Pittsburgh (22)
Jacksonville (27)
Detroit (25)
Baltimore (20)
Oakland (26)
Pittsburgh (22)
Denver (1)
Baltimore (20)

Losses against these teams and their defensive scoring ranking:

Green Bay (14)
Chicago (24)
Cleveland (17)
New York Jets (32)
Los Angeles Chargers (31)
San Francisco (18)......

Wow, those are some big numbers. Only 2 in the top 15.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by mililo4cpa

this is true....I mentioned in an earlier post that they play Bates single high about 15-25 yards off the ball most of the time, they rarely rush more than 4, and will mix in some 2 high zone looks along the way, but mostly play man.

It all looks like they are trying to keep things in front of them by design, avoid the deep plays (why Bates is so far back all the time), and try to beat you with the front four (which they have some high motor guys in Hendrickson and Hubbard). I think their front four is fairly decent at times to be honest, but overall I don't think they're better than the Browns front four.

Even when they do blitz, the often will drop a DE into coverage in exchange for a LB or DB coming off an edge. While they do bring 5 or 6 occasionally, it is evident they either (a) don't like to do it; or (b) don't want to do it, because it's counter-productive with keeping things in front of them.

Simply put: It seems their style of D that limits the big play, keeps the ball in front of them, and then take advantage of the other team's mistakes along the way. Sound familiar? Well it should, because that's what teams have been trying to do to us all season, albeit the Bengals Like to do it by manning up moreso than 2 deep zone).

I suspect we'll definitely see more zone looks simply because trying to man up on Hill and Kelce is foolish. I also see that they have no issue rushing three....and do it fairly often as well. Of course, this usually comes with some 2 deep zone concepts as well (which probably becomes 3-4 deep because then keep everything in front of them)

I also have seen that only rushing four exposes them to QBs getting outside the pocket often, particularly with an OL like ours that can handle it. I expect Mahomes to be able to get out on the perimeter and do his Mahomes things.

I also believe their LBs are a huge liability, hence the reason TEs tend to feast on them.

I think it will be a long day for them if they try to single high, rush four all day. Will be a rougher day if they 2 deep zone....so really all that is left if for the gals to do exactly what the Bengals guy who Kimosabi quoted said to do.....

Grab, Hold, and Jesus take the wheel

The problem here is Vonn Bell is no HB and this is where they are about to get raped.

Hill and Kelce have the jets to make them pay dearly for rolling this plan out unless covid is still ****ing them.

It's only going to take a few 10 yard gains that become 30+ due to missed tackles before they will have to abandon what they're doing.

While it's true they generally stick to the plan, they haven't faced an Offense like this one.

[Chief Pagan]

Joe Burrow, QB, Cincinnati Bengals vs. Kansas City Chiefs

There are only so many people who would include a QB who just threw for 525 yards and four touchdowns in the next week’s bust article, and apparently, I am one of them. While last week’s performance was pretty impressive, Week 17 is a fresh contest and the Bengals have a difficult opponent to face.

According to research done by my 4for4 co-worker TJ Hernandez, the Chiefs are allowing the second-fewest fantasy points per pass attempt in the NFL over the last six weeks with just .29, just behind Miami’s .26. Kansas City has held three of their last four opposing QBs to 12.0 fantasy points or under, which could make for a tough day for Burrow. If he’s the reason you’re playing this week, congrats, but you may want to go with another QB in the title game.

https://www.nbcspaortsedge.com/artic...17-risky-picks

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by crispystl

Hell I still get a good buzz on and smash some hamburger helper about twice a year.


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I mean, say when. I’ll bring the beer.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Looks to me our front 4 will feast on Burrow. He needs time for his receivers to get deep. Don't think that will happen. If he tries to get a long ball out quickly he'll have to put a lot of arch on the ball which means Mathieu and Sorenson will be playing centerfield fielding balls.