This is how the NFL rigs games

[rabblerouser]

The refs really showed out for the Bungles today.

**** the NFL.

[Bengal_Guy]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

If they "go both ways all the time", why was last Sunday such an exception?

It's okay, I'll wait here while you call me names and figure it out.

I registered just for this thread. The Bengals had two penalties called on them on the final drive. Same number as Chiefs. Both were killer. One took them out of relatively easy FG range and is often a drive killer...holding on 1st and 10 at 24 yard line to 1st and 20 at the 34...why call THAT flag if they wanted Bengals to win?

On goal line, the offsetting penalties cost Bengals a TD. IF no holding call on Bengals, Mixon would have been given a TD on review. Ball crossed before his elbow hit, you can look it up. So refs not only called a penalty on Bengals they also marked him down short. Neither seem indicative of refs nudging Bengals to win. Boyd had to adjust his helmet after the hands to the face...do you really think if the roles were reversed you wouldn't agree with that penalty if it was on Hill?

On Pringles TD...the flag was thrown well before it was obvious he would return for a TD and he was obviously held. The refs had no way to know at that moment of the penalty he would run it back.

I thought the unnecessary roughness call on Chase was BS and there was a ticky tack PI that was also, I thought, a bad call. Otherwise it was a pretty typical Bengals game as far as penalties go. We are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL.

You guys are passionate fans and hurt by the loss so I am not trying to stir sht up. Just trying to bring some opposite view points. Peace

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Bengal_Guy

I registered just for this thread. The Bengals had two penalties called on them on the final drive. Same number as Chiefs. Both were killer. One took them out of relatively easy FG range and is often a drive killer...holding on 1st and 10 at 24 yard line to 1st and 20 at the 34...why call THAT flag if they wanted Bengals to win?

On goal line, the offsetting penalties cost Bengals a TD. IF no holding call on Bengals, Mixon would have been given a TD on review. Ball crossed before his elbow hit, you can look it up. So refs not only called a penalty on Bengals they also marked him down short. Neither seem indicative of refs nudging Bengals to win. Boyd had to adjust his helmet after the hands to the face...do you really think if the roles were reversed you wouldn't agree with that penalty if it was on Hill?

On Pringles TD...the flag was thrown well before it was obvious he would return for a TD and he was obviously held. The refs had no way to know at that moment of the penalty he would run it back.

I thought the unnecessary roughness call on Chase was BS and there was a ticky tack PI that was also, I thought, a bad call. Otherwise it was a pretty typical Bengals game as far as penalties go. We are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL.

You guys are passionate fans and hurt by the loss so I am not trying to stir sht up. Just trying to being some opposite view points. Peace

Good first post. Don't mind the small handful of conspiracy knuckleheads. They do this after about every Chiefs loss that involves any kind of officiating mistakes. Not a word when it happens during a Chiefs win.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by mkp785

You're a moron. Calls go both ways all the time. This is you whining like a little bitch. You want to blame someone for this loss? Start with Spags and Fat Andy.

Cool avatar. Is that fireball supposed to be Earth?

[Bengal_Guy]

Originally Posted by Fish

Good first post. Don't mind the small handful of conspiracy knuckleheads. They do this after about every Chiefs loss that involves any kind of officiating mistakes. Not a word when it happens during a Chiefs win.

Appreciate the welcome...I have enjoyed reading the board these last few days as the Chiefs and their success are what we aspire to become.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Bengal_Guy

I registered just for this thread. The Bengals had two penalties called on them on the final drive. Same number as Chiefs. Both were killer. One took them out of relatively easy FG range and is often a drive killer...holding on 1st and 10 at 24 yard line to 1st and 20 at the 34...why call THAT flag if they wanted Bengals to win?

On goal line, the offsetting penalties cost Bengals a TD. IF no holding call on Bengals, Mixon would have been given a TD on review. Ball crossed before his elbow hit, you can look it up. So refs not only called a penalty on Bengals they also marked him down short. Neither seem indicative of refs nudging Bengals to win. Boyd had to adjust his helmet after the hands to the face...do you really think if the roles were reversed you wouldn't agree with that penalty if it was on Hill?

On Pringles TD...the flag was thrown well before it was obvious he would return for a TD and he was obviously held. The refs had no way to know at that moment of the penalty he would run it back.

I thought the unnecessary roughness call on Chase was BS and there was a ticky tack PI that was also, I thought, a bad call. Otherwise it was a pretty typical Bengals game as far as penalties go. We are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL.

You guys are passionate fans and hurt by the loss so I am not trying to stir sht up. Just trying to being some opposite view points. Peace

I don't buy into the rigged or conspiracy stuff, but the worst call was the PI on your final TD drive. You guys were punting with us still leading if that horrible call was not made.

Then there was the inexcusable defensive call we made on that 3rd and 27 play. Just brutal.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Bengal_Guy

Appreciate the welcome...I have enjoyed reading the board these last few days as the Chiefs and their success are what we aspire to become.

You guys have a shitload of young talent. Lots of potential. Hopefully we'll see many more competitive games like that over the next few years.

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Cool avatar. Is that fireball supposed to be Earth?

Thanks. I would assume so but we never really see what the astronaut looks like...could be some weird alien looking at a different planet.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Bengal_Guy

I registered just for this thread. The Bengals had two penalties called on them on the final drive. Same number as Chiefs. Both were killer. One took them out of relatively easy FG range and is often a drive killer...holding on 1st and 10 at 24 yard line to 1st and 20 at the 34...why call THAT flag if they wanted Bengals to win?

On goal line, the offsetting penalties cost Bengals a TD. IF no holding call on Bengals, Mixon would have been given a TD on review. Ball crossed before his elbow hit, you can look it up. So refs not only called a penalty on Bengals they also marked him down short. Neither seem indicative of refs nudging Bengals to win. Boyd had to adjust his helmet after the hands to the face...do you really think if the roles were reversed you wouldn't agree with that penalty if it was on Hill?

On Pringles TD...the flag was thrown well before it was obvious he would return for a TD and he was obviously held. The refs had no way to know at that moment of the penalty he would run it back.

I thought the unnecessary roughness call on Chase was BS and there was a ticky tack PI that was also, I thought, a bad call. Otherwise it was a pretty typical Bengals game as far as penalties go. We are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL.

You guys are passionate fans and hurt by the loss so I am not trying to stir sht up. Just trying to bring some opposite view points. Peace

Welcome, and agreed. There's always a lot of bias that goes into these threads, as with any forum for any sport, and we often ignore or blindly accept whatever happens on the opponent's side of things while diving head first into any supposed wrongdoing for the Chiefs.

And when there are obvious calls, like the holding on the kickoff return, it becomes a slope of "that's never called" or "you can call that every play".

And if you're part of Bengals Board, tell your mods to lighten up a little and allow other fans... it's more fun that way.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Bengal_Guy

I registered just for this thread. The Bengals had two penalties called on them on the final drive. Same number as Chiefs. Both were killer. One took them out of relatively easy FG range and is often a drive killer...holding on 1st and 10 at 24 yard line to 1st and 20 at the 34...why call THAT flag if they wanted Bengals to win?

On goal line, the offsetting penalties cost Bengals a TD. IF no holding call on Bengals, Mixon would have been given a TD on review. Ball crossed before his elbow hit, you can look it up. So refs not only called a penalty on Bengals they also marked him down short. Neither seem indicative of refs nudging Bengals to win. Boyd had to adjust his helmet after the hands to the face...do you really think if the roles were reversed you wouldn't agree with that penalty if it was on Hill?

On Pringles TD...the flag was thrown well before it was obvious he would return for a TD and he was obviously held. The refs had no way to know at that moment of the penalty he would run it back.

I thought the unnecessary roughness call on Chase was BS and there was a ticky tack PI that was also, I thought, a bad call. Otherwise it was a pretty typical Bengals game as far as penalties go. We are one of the least penalized teams in the NFL.

You guys are passionate fans and hurt by the loss so I am not trying to stir sht up. Just trying to bring some opposite view points. Peace

Least penalized teams? Exactly the point. Joe is becoming a star. Chase is already there. The league wants you in the playoffs and we were housing your ass. So here comes the flags to get control and they did. 6 times they gave you a first down from flags. If not for the flags we would have kicked you ass. 5 were on 3rd down when we stopped you.

[Bengal_Guy]

Originally Posted by Fish

You guys have a shitload of young talent. Lots of potential. Hopefully we'll see many more competitive games like that over the next few years.

Oddly...it looks like we get you guys at Paul Brown Stadium again next year...not sure why it's not alternating. If we managed to win a game in playoffs we could also face you at Arrowhead in division round. So could be three times over this year and next.

Here’s a look at who the Bengals will play on the 2022 schedule.

Home:

PIT
BAL
CLE
BUF
MIA
ATL
CAR
KC

Away:

PIT
BAL
CLE
NE
NYJ
NO
TB
TEN
DAL

[Bengal_Guy]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Least penalized teams? Exactly the point. Joe is becoming a star. Chase is already there. The league wants you in the playoffs and we were housing your ass. So here comes the flags to get control and they did. 6 times they gave you a first down from flags. If not for the flags we would have kicked you ass. 5 were on 3rd down when we stopped you.

I sure wish they would have lent us a hand in OT losses vs Packers and Chargers!

[frozenchief]

Interesting info about the effect of the penalties on the KC/Cin game:

The #Bengals gained over 60% Win Probability from penalties in their Week 17 win over the #Chiefs

It was the 3rd largest WP gained from penalties in any #NFL game this year

The #Eagles again overcame a large WP loss from penalties and clinched a spot in the playoffs#NFLStats pic.twitter.com/aGLQU8oUzi

— acCOUNTable refs (@AcCOUNTableRefs) January 4, 2022

[ThaVirus]

There might have been a few questionable calls, but I'd point to any number of Chase catches (Sorenson blown coverage, the one where he outran literally our entire defense, and 3rd and 27), a dipshit penalty by that other white guy on our roster who I also hate on the kick return TD, Hill's dropped pass before halftime, or just putting up 3 points total in the entire second half before I really get into the officiating.

Plus, why would the NFL want to rig this game for Cinci? What sense does that make? Their market is just as small as KC's. Plus they've been historically bad. No one gives a shit about seeing the Bengals in the postseason.

And by hurting us, they help the Titans. Why? Now there's a good shot the AFCCG is played in Nashville. It's a cool party city and decent weekend travel spot for basic chicks, but the football world gives no shits about it. Another AFCCG at Arrowhead would be a lot cooler.

[Red Dawg]

^ Well there you have it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by frozenchief

Interesting info about the effect of the penalties on the KC/Cin game:

The #Bengals gained over 60% Win Probability from penalties in their Week 17 win over the #Chiefs

It was the 3rd largest WP gained from penalties in any #NFL game this year

The #Eagles again overcame a large WP loss from penalties and clinched a spot in the playoffs#NFLStats pic.twitter.com/aGLQU8oUzi

— acCOUNTable refs (@AcCOUNTableRefs) January 4, 2022

I saw this too but they have like 400 followers and they aren't transparent on how they collect/interpret data.

Though if you're inclined to believe, it's interesting that KC/CIN was only 3rd most impactful game of the season regarding penalties.

Some here would lead you to believe it was the most egregious match fixing in the history of sport.