The first offseason domino to fall...

[Red Dawg]

Tagging Brown would suck. Long term deal is best but he will want a lot and what really sucks is he's no where near a great LT but we gave up a 1 for him unfortunately so letting him walk is idiotic.

He has the power and we don't. Veach needs to stop giving away 1's for players anyway and certainly not for players that don't have deals.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Tagging Brown would suck. Long term deal is best but he will want a lot and what really sucks is he's no where near a great LT but we gave up a 1 for him unfortunately so letting him walk is idiotic.

He has the power and we don't. Veach needs to stop giving away 1's for players anyway and certainly not for players that don't have deals.

Who would you have spent our #1 on then that was equivalent to Brown? As we wouldn't have gotten a 2nd back who would you have sacrificed between Bolton and Humphrey as we would not have gotten both?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Who would you have spent our #1 on then that was equivalent to Brown? As we wouldn't have gotten a 2nd back who would you have sacrificed between Bolton and Humphrey as we would not have gotten both?

This is key.

We spent the offseason examining potential left tackle solutions, particularly in the draft, under an electron microscope.

Of all the guys we evaluated, virtually none of them emerged as a starting LT prospect. Several of them played RT and some of them even got moved to guard. The rest weren't all that effective.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

This is key.

We spent the offseason examining potential left tackle solutions, particularly in the draft, under an electron microscope.

Of all the guys we evaluated, virtually none of them emerged as a starting LT prospect. Several of them played RT and some of them even got moved to guard. The rest weren't all that effective.

Yup. And the ones we would have wanted were gone well before we picked. Elite to above average LTs do not grow on trees. They typically get drafted very high and teams don't typically part with established ones. We were very fortunate that Baltimore had Stanley or else there would have been zero chance they part with Brown.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Who would you have spent our #1 on then that was equivalent to Brown? As we wouldn't have gotten a 2nd back who would you have sacrificed between Bolton and Humphrey as we would not have gotten both?

It's Red Dawg. It's pointless to debate with him because he doesn't know shit. He just likes to bitch.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

It's Red Dawg. It's pointless to debate with him because he doesn't know shit. He just likes to bitch.

It would be nice if people would stop quoting that reerun so that I never have to see any of his posts.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Tagging Brown would suck. Long term deal is best but he will want a lot and what really sucks is he's no where near a great LT but we gave up a 1 for him unfortunately so letting him walk is idiotic.

He has the power and we don't. Veach needs to stop giving away 1's for players anyway and certainly not for players that don't have deals.

Why? Who else is worth using the tag on?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Why? Who else is worth using the tag on?

I presume he's talking about the fact that a tag would mean all that money THIS season, while in a long term deal you could spread out the hit and possibly negotiate a back loaded contract.

A tag MAY be prohibitive to signing a guy like Allen Robinson etc.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I presume he's talking about the fact that a tag would mean all that money THIS season, while in a long term deal you could spread out the hit and possible negotiate a back loaded contact.

A tag MAY be prohibitive to signing a guy like Allen Robinson etc.

You would think that but not really. Veach can easily go into the start of FA with enough money to do both.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

You would think that but not really. Veach can easily go into the start of FA with enough money to do both.

And knowing EXACTLY how much of the cap Brown is using up.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And knowing EXACTLY how much of the cap Brown is using up.

Yep, and he'll be able to adjust from that number depending on what they want to do.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And knowing EXACTLY how much of the cap Brown is using up.

They can always covert Mahomes salary to a signing bonus. That frees up some salary cap space and Mahomes doesn’t lose a dime.

[Renegade]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

They can always covert Mahomes salary to a signing bonus. That frees up some salary cap space and Mahomes doesn’t lose a dime.

Just curious how this works. Are bonuses taxed at a higher rate than salary? Don't players pay taxes where they play the games? If you convert to bonus, is that less taxes paid out of salary to opposing cities?

Just curious how taxes work in the Athletes world.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I presume he's talking about the fact that a tag would mean all that money THIS season, while in a long term deal you could spread out the hit and possibly negotiate a back loaded contact.

A tag MAY be prohibitive to signing a guy like Allen Robinson etc.

IF they can't use the tag to get a deal done. There's plenty of precedent, even on the Chiefs, of using the tag and getting a deal done after the draft.

[Shaid]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Tagging Brown would suck. Long term deal is best but he will want a lot and what really sucks is he's no where near a great LT but we gave up a 1 for him unfortunately so letting him walk is idiotic.

He has the power and we don't. Veach needs to stop giving away 1's for players anyway and certainly not for players that don't have deals.

We gave up the equivalance of a 2 for him. If we just flat out lose him in FA, we'll get a 3 as comp. Not great but I don't think we're necessarily forced into making a move if we don't want to.

I still don't see him as a great LT. He's still much more an RT in my mind. He's good and I wouldn't be upset if we re-signed him. I do agree that he's not worth what he wants.