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Old 03-18-2022, 02:20 PM  
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Old 03-18-2022, 03:43 PM   #226
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They brought in a 25-year old WR on an affordable contract and who clearly has #2 WR upside and people are still bitching.

Honestly, I think I'm done with CP for a while.
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Old 03-18-2022, 03:43 PM   #227
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If the Chiefs somehow come away with a J.Williams, Burks, Pickens etc then this JuJu signing will look a lot sexier.
That is where Im at as well. With this being a one year deal and Hardman headed towards free agency next year it doesnt feel like they are done.
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Yay, we're back (did we ever leave) of being the CP where you can't have concerns about players we sign, but you can shit on superstars when they get signed by rival teams.

Good Christ, guys. We're all going to have different opinions - and there's a ****ton of nuance on this one considering his age, the 1-year deal and his lack of consistent success. He (DJ) stated well before this signing why he didn't like the player - it's not like this is revisionist history.

With that said, I'm pretty meh on it, but also wouldn't be surprised if we revisit this thread in 365 days and some of y'all are complaining that we don't have him locked up for 2023 or later.
See the good news is I've got it coming and going.

Didn't want him signed BUT if we're gonna sign him, should've signed him to some actual term.

If he sucks - I'm good. Had it all along. If he's great - still good; shoulda signed him long-term.

That's how you do this shit, boys...

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Old 03-18-2022, 03:45 PM   #229
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Yay, we're back (did we ever leave) of being the CP where you can't have concerns about players we sign, but you can shit on superstars when they get signed by rival teams.

Good Christ, guys. We're all going to have different opinions - and there's a ****ton of nuance on this one considering his age, the 1-year deal and his lack of consistent success. He (DJ) stated well before this signing why he didn't like the player - it's not like this is revisionist history.

With that said, I'm pretty meh on it, but also wouldn't be surprised if we revisit this thread in 365 days and some of y'all are complaining that we don't have him locked up for 2023 or later.
There's plenty of the opposite reactions too.

The problem with CP, like society in general, is that there's almost no room for a neutral or moderate position.

Everybody has to be lumped into camps of polar opposition so that a fight can ensue.

It's tiring.
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The odds are high that JuJu won't play all 17 games.

I'm really hoping for a 1st round WR at this point. I want a REAL threat on the perimeter.
Guck that. We can get a good DE starter at 30. Signed for 5 years if they are great instead of 4 in later rounds.
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They brought in a 25-year old WR on an affordable contract and who clearly has #2 WR upside and people are still bitching.

Honestly, I think I'm done with CP for a while.
I can't speak for DJ, but it seems like this is the breaking point.

Some believe he has that upside, some don't.
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See the good news is I've got it coming and going.

Didn't want him signed BUT if we're gonna sign him, should've signed him to some actual term.

If he sucks - I'm good. Had it all along. If he's great - still good; shoulda signed him long-term.

That's how you do this shit, boys...

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And I have a feeling that Juju wasn't looking for something long term. He wants a prove it deal where he can actually, you know, prove it this time.

Yes I realize that in your eyes that means we shouldn't have signed him.

Just saying....a long term deal has to have two sides to it.
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I can't speak for DJ, but it seems like this is the breaking point.

Some believe he has that upside, some don't.
What's wrong with just waiting and seeing how he does before we pass judgement either way?
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Josh Gordon was also twice the player JuJu ever was.

My point being that production from that long ago means nothing when he's been rather unspectacular since then.

Watkins was a much better player at the time of his signing with the Chiefs.
JuJu’s career season: 111 receptions, 1,426 yards receiving, 7 TD’s.

Gordon’s career season: 87 receptions, 1,646 yards receiving, 9 TD’s.

Gordon’s career season was 8 years removed, and countless failed drug tests/suspensions from when he signed with the Chiefs.

JuJu’s career season is 4 years ago.

Gordon is 30, JuJu is 25.
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How you figure?

I mean, i'm hoping for the best and all and will certainly root for him. But I'm not seeing this "cover-2 beater" shit that everyone else is.

His skill set is not particularly unique or rare. He's not a guy that requires doubles, and you could man him up with a single defender fairly consistently with success.
Because he’s really good finding soft spots in zones, sitting down and then getting RAC with the ball in his hands. He also has reliable hands (69% career catch rate of overall targets to catches) so he helps move the chains on the long drives we’re become accustomed to since every team drops 2 deep safeties to combat the long TDs.
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See the good news is I've got it coming and going.

Didn't want him signed BUT if we're gonna sign him, should've signed him to some actual term.

If he sucks - I'm good. Had it all along. If he's great - still good; shoulda signed him long-term.

That's how you do this shit, boys...

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Exactly. Veach isn’t in or out on JuJu. Maybe it’s the injury history. Maybe his attitude? See how he fits in the locker room? Who knows but Veach.
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They brought in a 25-year old WR on an affordable contract and who clearly has #2 WR upside and people are still bitching.

Honestly, I think I'm done with CP for a while.
There's legitimate concerns about the player.

I'm glad the Chiefs made a move here as the cupboard was barren. I can see him as a piece. Just not "The piece".

They still need a legitimate threat to pair with Hill to make this group "Legion of Zoom" scary again.

Im holding out hope that they view JuJu as a piece of the puzzle for what is a complete WR room overhaul, including a high end draft pick.
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but why didnt he choose the Chiefs last year?
Came back for Ben's last year.
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What's wrong with just waiting and seeing how he does before we pass judgement either way?
What's the fun in riding the fence on an internet chat board?

I'm not interested in someone that puts their hand out the window and tells me its raining.

Ain't any money on this one, fellas - state your case and see if you're right.

I'm right more than I'm wrong. But I'm wrong with some frequency. Doesn't bother me any.

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