The roster as it stands

[Phoneix]

My 2022 Game 1 roster guesses:

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

ST
Butker
Townsend
Winchester

PTW- PS
Crum - PS
Franks - Release
Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS




Just trying to keep up....makes it a little more clear to be able to see needs/wants

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buchele
RB - CEH/Jones/Gore/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Gordon/Powell/Fountain
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Niang/Wylie/Christian/Kinnard
RG - Smith
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretti
LT - OBJ/PTW
LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Kaindoh
WLB - Harris/Chenal
MLB - Bolton/Carter
SLB - Gay/Lee
LCB - Fenton/McDuffie/Bootle/Watson
RCB - Sneed/Baker/Williams/Barcoo/Johnson
SS - Reid/Key/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush/Anderson

Salaries in the spoilers

Spoiler!

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.

Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position.

I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility.

Offense -

Quarterbacks (3/2)
• 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5)
• 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000)
• 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)

Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida

• 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500)
• 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M)
• Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M)
• 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825)
• Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705

o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State

• 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M)
• 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M)
• 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M)
• Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K)
• 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K
• 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K
• Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K
• Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K

o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M
o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M
o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M
o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

• 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M)
• 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M)
• 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR
• 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?)
• 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K
• Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K

Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU

• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500)
• Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K
• Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?)

o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M
o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.

Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position.

I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility.

Offense -

Quarterbacks (3/2)
• 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5)
• 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000)
• 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)

Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida

• 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500)
• 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M)
• Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M)
• 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825)
• Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705

o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State

• 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M)
• 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M)
• 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M)
• Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K)
• 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K
• 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K
• Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K
• Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K

o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M
o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M
o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M
o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

• 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M)
• 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M)
• 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR
• 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?)
• 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K
• Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K

Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU

• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500)
• Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K
• Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?)

o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M
o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

[Phoneix]

Originally Posted by ArrowHeader

Juju lost his juju after his breakout season. MVS has blistering speed and a legit deep threat, but there’s a reason Rodgers didn’t target him much. Veach was really reaching when he signed those two. As it stands, we lack any true threats in the passing game. Gonna make it easier to contain Kelce, and our running game isn’t going to help. The elite WR in this draft won’t be available at the bottom of the 1st round. What’s Allen Robinson up to these days?

You have lost your god dammed mind


2020 16 games 831 yds and 9 TDS

2019 12 games 552 yds and 3 TDS

2018 16 games 1426 yds and 7 TDS

201714 games 917 yds and 7 TDS

[ArrowHeader]

Originally Posted by Phoneix

You have lost your god dammed mind


2020 16 games 831 yds and 9 TDS

2019 12 games 552 yds and 3 TDS

2018 16 games 1426 yds and 7 TDS

201714 games 917 yds and 7 TDS

PIT’s issues were far greater than Juju, so not blaming him entirely, but the guy was hit or miss. That is undeniable. They went all in on him after the AB fallout and it just didn’t pan out.

[Phoneix]

Originally Posted by ArrowHeader

PIT’s issues were far greater than Juju, so not blaming him entirely, but the guy was hit or miss. That is undeniable. They went all in on him after the AB fallout and it just didn’t pan out.

He is no #1 for sure - he needs to play across from a true #1. But as a #2 he is solid

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Phoneix

Break it down for me

JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 year pro 63 games 3800 yds 26 TDS
M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 year pro 72 games 3600 yds 26 TDS
Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 year pro 46 games 2300 yds 15 TDS
Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 year pro 50 games 2700 yds 7 TDS

MVS (6'4" 27 YO) 4 year pro 59 games 2200 yds 13 TDS
Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 2 year pro 35 games 1000 yds 6 TDS
Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 year pro 28 games 800 yds 4 TDS
Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 year pro 55 games 2000 yds 12 TDS

Hardman (5'10" 24 yo) 3 year pro 49 games 1800 yds 12 TDS


Yeah - we don't have a true #1 YET - but I'd take our #2/#3 combo over any of the others. M Williams is pretty close but his production #'s include 9 more games than JSS.

Jeudy had more yards last year in his 10 games played than Juju would have had even if he played all 17 games. And he's our most well rounded WR right now.

[Phoneix]

Originally Posted by -King-

Jeudy had more yards last year in his 10 games played than Juju would have had even if he played all 17 games. And he's our most well rounded WR right now.

Jeudy is their #1 - JSS is a #2 that is well established.

[Rausch]

This team is about as deep as Paris Hilton...

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I'd be willing to wait for Jameson Williams to get healed.

You are going to give up both firsts and a 2nd to get up to 15. Maybe one of the draftniks know the picks it will take?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You are going to give up both firsts and a 2nd to get up to 15.

Get up 8-10 spots and take Wyatt. Have a great DT combo and that will lighten the load on some JAG DE's. It's also better pressure against immobile QB's like Brady, Carr, etc.

We could have two beasts inside and take our golden boy pass rusher next year after reloading depth this year with all the picks...

[oldman]

I think we can address the DE in the 1st and a burner WR in the 1st or a high 2nd. I am concerned more about the secondary. Another OT would be nice since Niang probably won't be back until after the start of the season and I wonder just how far along the Prince is. With 8 picks in the 1-4 rounds, we should be able to pick up some depth. I don't think we should be spending that extra cap money like drunken sailors unless it's just 1 year deals.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by Phoneix

Bet take JSS against any of those other WR easy. The only one that is close is M. Williams and when you figure that JSS sat out 12 games last year and M.Williams didn't it gets pretty obvious JSS is waaaaaayyyyy better than any #2 WR in the AFCW

JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 year pro 63 games 3800 yds 26 TDS
M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 year pro 72 games 3600 yds 26 TDS
Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 year pro 46 games 2300 yds 15 TDS
Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 year pro 50 games 2700 yds 7 TDS
Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 2 year pro 35 games 1000 yds 6 TDS
Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 year pro 28 games 800 yds 4 TDS
Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 year pro 55 games 2000 yds 12 TDS

Can you post last years stats? M. Williams just signed a $20M / yr deal? Renfrow had 1000 yards last year. Broncos haven’t had a qb and their wrs are big boys with talent. The point here is that the chiefs need help at wr. The current group is clearly deficient when compared with the rest of afcw. Mahomes needs some help.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Razaele

Going from Hill to anyone else is a downgrade at WR1, but if we added another name to the group above (like a Shenault), I think I'd say that WR1 has downgraded but WR 2-4 have upgraded. Will that equal more yards of offense and more first downs, in the end?

It was an anomaly, but it was OUR anomaly. And it's this.

We'll likely have enough capital to field a decent offense. And Mahomes will certainly be good enough to keep it productive and on a winning track.

But what we lose when we lose Hill is slack in the rope.

No more




"Oh, . . . BOO HOOO!!! We're down 20 points in an important game. . . well how about [hiiiya!! Judo chop!!] - . . . 21 points in 3-4 minutes to end the half."

"Enjoy your halftime deficit you worked so hard for, suckers!!"


- - -

Now, a 20 point deficit might be enough to bury us for good most games.

So we got to hope we don't get so many of those, or even to have a game plan to get early leads instead.

It's a little more than zigging, when they thought we'd zag, . . it's a paradigm shift. So now it's our duty to be hopeful they assemble something.

[Bump]

Hopefully there are two badass edge rushers left at the end of the first round, at least one.

[Phoneix]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Can you post last years stats? M. Williams just signed a $20M / yr deal? Renfrow had 1000 yards last year. Broncos haven’t had a qb and their wrs are big boys with talent. The point here is that the chiefs need help at wr. The current group is clearly deficient when compared with the rest of afcw. Mahomes needs some help.

JSS was hurt last year, You can’t compare. Renfrow had 1000 yds last year but his lowest AYPC in his 3 years. You have to take the total body of work over their (short) careers to get a comparison. You argue Bronco QBs have been trash I’d argue Rothisburger hasn’t been good for several years. As I said M. Williams is the closest in production to JSS as anyone else BUT JSS was hurt for 12 games last year and Rothisburger was trash anyway.

[Phoneix]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

It was an anomaly, but it was OUR anomaly. And it's this.

We'll likely have enough capital to field a decent offense. And Mahomes will certainly be good enough to keep it productive and on a winning track.

But what we lose when we lose Hill is slack in the rope.

No more




"Oh, . . . BOO HOOO!!! We're down 20 points in an important game. . . well how about [hiiiya!! Judo chop!!] - . . . 21 points in 3-4 minutes to end the half."

"Enjoy your halftime deficit you worked so hard for, suckers!!"


- - -

Now, a 20 point deficit might be enough to bury us for good most games.

So we got to hope we don't get so many of those, or even to have a game plan to get early leads instead.

It's a little more than zigging, when they thought we'd zag, . . it's a paradigm shift. So now it's our duty to be hopeful they assemble something.

Yeah idk if I buy that - erasing that 24 point deficit to the Texans was all Kelce. Sure the SB was saved by the WASP but who scored the 4 touchdowns?

[emaw1979]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You are going to give up both firsts and a 2nd to get up to 15. Maybe one of the draftniks know the picks it will take?

A 1st and 2nd (this year) will likely do. May need to add a 4th or 5th as well.

They went from 27 to 10 for Mahomes and gave up 1st, 1st following year, and a 3rd.

2 firsts this year probably gets them 8-10.