Rank the edge rushers

[kccrow]

1. A. Hutchinson
2. K. Thibodeaux
3. T. Walker
4. J. Johnson
5. G. Karlaftis
6. B. Mafe
7. D. Ojabo
8. A. Ebiketie
9. D. Jackson
10. S. Williams
11. L. Hall
12. C. Thomas
13. K. Enagbare
14. A. Barno
15. M. Sanders

Wasn't quite sure where to slot Ojabo. I just think he's an aside to the board dependent upon what they've done up to that point. I just can't fathom they'll take him as their first stab at ER but might take him if they've already locked one up.

[RunKC]

Man I don’t get the lack of Ebeketie hype. Dude was 6’3” 256 lbs at the combine. Long arms.

Skimmed down a bit for pro day to get 4.65 40 and a 6.95 3 cone.

Dude is really good. He could be an excellent speed rusher who needs to put on a bit of muscle as a rookie but that’s okay IMO.

He just got better and better going from Temple to Penn St to replace Jayson Oweh

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Man I don’t get the lack of Ebeketie hype. Dude was 6’3” 256 lbs at the combine. Long arms.

Skimmed down a bit for pro day to get 4.65 40 and a 6.95 3 cone.

Dude is really good. He could be an excellent speed rusher who needs to put on a bit of muscle as a rookie but that’s okay IMO.

He just got better and better going from Temple to Penn St to replace Jayson Oweh

Hey, if they feel he’s a fit, then by all means. I like the player.

But when he shows up to his Pro Day at 240lbs, it’s kind of hard to assume he checks enough boxes for Spags.

If they feel he’s a fit, I can see him as high as 8.

Even though I would have Thomas and Williams above him, I don’t think they go before him.

If they go EDGE, and it’s not Karlaftis, Mafe, Ojabo or a huge trade up, it’s probably Ebiketie.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Man I don’t get the lack of Ebeketie hype. Dude was 6’3” 256 lbs at the combine. Long arms.

Skimmed down a bit for pro day to get 4.65 40 and a 6.95 3 cone.

Dude is really good. He could be an excellent speed rusher who needs to put on a bit of muscle as a rookie but that’s okay IMO.

He just got better and better going from Temple to Penn St to replace Jayson Oweh

I did briefly mention in another thread that he's not much shorter than Frank Clark, he's just alot lighter. Ebiketie is 6'2-3/8" whereas Clark is 6'2-7/8" but you're looking at Ebiketie was 250 at the combine and Clark was 271. The thing with Ebiketie, and why I haven't dismissed him, is he's got 34-1/8" arms. Clark was 34-3/8". Ebiketie is also relatively high cut, so he has longer legs to get leverage to go with those incredibly long arms for his height. If you can put 10-15 pounds on that kid, I think you have a guy that can play in a 4-3. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see KC pick him.

We got guys talking about double-dipping in round 1, I wouldn't mind seeing a move up for Karlaftis or Johnson to play SDE and take this kid at 30 to play WDE. Hell, if you want to stay pat, take him and Mafe and 29 and 30.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I did briefly mention in another thread that he's not much shorter than Frank Clark, he's just alot lighter. Ebiketie is 6'2-3/8" whereas Clark is 6'2-7/8" but you're looking at Ebiketie was 250 at the combine and Clark was 271. The thing with Ebiketie, and why I haven't dismissed him, is he's got 34-1/8" arms. Clark was 34-3/8". Ebiketie is also relatively high cut, so he has longer legs to get leverage to go with those incredibly long arms for his height. If you can put 10-15 pounds on that kid, I think you have a guy that can play in a 4-3. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see KC pick him.

We got guys talking about double-dipping in round 1, I wouldn't mind seeing a move up for Karlaftis or Johnson to play SDE and take this kid at 30 to play WDE. Hell, if you want to stay pat, take him and Mafe and 29 and 30.

You think Mafe can play SDE?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You think Mafe can play SDE?

Maybe I shouldn't say SDE, because Spags really just plays guys at LDE or RDE. He's got length issues, so I think LDE puts him against RTs that have a better chance of having a little less length against him and his athleticism should be more of a problem for those guys. He's also unlikely to get guard help coming over on him being next to Jones. So yes, I can see it, especially if he can bulk up a bit more and get in that 270 range.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Maybe I shouldn't say SDE, because Spags really just plays guys at LDE or RDE. He's got length issues, so I think LDE puts him against RTs that have a better chance of having a little less length against him and his athleticism should be more of a problem for those guys. He's also unlikely to get guard help coming over on him being next to Jones. So yes, I can see it, especially if he can bulk up a bit more and get in that 270 range.

Fair enough, and agreed on LDE/RDE, but he clearly has a type for both.

I’ve wondered whether a pairing like Mafe and Ojabo or Williams could work, because all of those guys project better to RDE/WDE.

[RunKC]

I like Williams as much as anyone. I think he’s a day 1 impact player.

Look at how much trouble he gave Charles Cross?

Ole Miss Edge Sam Williams with some really nice reps v. Charles Cross. Speed! pic.twitter.com/liZ6N92OZq

— Bobby Skinner (@BobbySkinner_) March 31, 2022

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

1. A. Hutchinson
2. K. Thibodeaux
3. T. Walker
4. J. Johnson
5. G. Karlaftis
6. B. Mafe
7. D. Ojabo
8. A. Ebiketie
9. D. Jackson
10. S. Williams
11. L. Hall
12. C. Thomas
13. K. Enagbare
14. A. Barno
15. M. Sanders

Wasn't quite sure where to slot Ojabo. I just think he's an aside to the board dependent upon what they've done up to that point. I just can't fathom they'll take him as their first stab at ER but might take him if they've already locked one up.

No Bonitto? Or are you counting him as a LB? He's a better rusher than a number here imo

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by JPH83

No Bonitto? Or are you counting him as a LB? He's a better rusher than a number here imo

I don't think he's going to be a guy the Chiefs target because of length and scheme fit. I like him, it's not personal.

If KC ran a 3-4 I'd be jumping up and down for Ebiketie at 30 and give strong consideration to Bonitto at 62 (although might still prefer Sam Williams).

[kcbubb]

I love this group. Really talented and deep class. I prefer the long armed guys. Short arms scare me. Here’s my favorite guys for the value. And I’d add Michael clemons at the bottom too.

7. D. Ojabo
8. A. Ebiketie
9. D. Jackson
10. S. Williams
13. K. Enagbare

Michael clemons, take a look at this video. He’s 6’5” 270 almost 35” arms and can run.

https://youtu.be/iYTTxgwfgmM

Originally Posted by kccrow

1. A. Hutchinson
2. K. Thibodeaux
3. T. Walker
4. J. Johnson
5. G. Karlaftis
6. B. Mafe
7. D. Ojabo
8. A. Ebiketie
9. D. Jackson
10. S. Williams
11. L. Hall
12. C. Thomas
13. K. Enagbare
14. A. Barno
15. M. Sanders

Wasn't quite sure where to slot Ojabo. I just think he's an aside to the board dependent upon what they've done up to that point. I just can't fathom they'll take him as their first stab at ER but might take him if they've already locked one up.

[RunKC]

Ebeketie is so underrated

Career pass-rush win rates on 3rd-and-4-plus, per @PFF:

Arnold Ebiketie (31%)

Kingsley Enagbare (27%)
Boye Mafe (26%)
Kayvon Thibodeaux (25%)
Aidan Hutchinson (24%)
George Karlaftis (21%)
Drake Jackson (20%)

Josh Paschal (18%)
Jermaine Johnson (17%)

Travon Walker (11%)

— Austin Gayle (@PFF_AustinGayle) April 16, 2022

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Ebeketie is so underrated

Career pass-rush win rates on 3rd-and-4-plus, per @PFF:

Arnold Ebiketie (31%)

Kingsley Enagbare (27%)
Boye Mafe (26%)
Kayvon Thibodeaux (25%)
Aidan Hutchinson (24%)
George Karlaftis (21%)
Drake Jackson (20%)

Josh Paschal (18%)
Jermaine Johnson (17%)

Travon Walker (11%)

— Austin Gayle (@PFF_AustinGayle) April 16, 2022

I actually think it's Enagbare that's being underrated.