NFLPA initiates investigation into concussion protocols after Tua injury

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

This is the thing. People slamming the Dolphins - justifiably - but what about the independent review process? Whether or not guys are cleared to play after potential concussions was supposed to be taken out of the team's hands. Whoever the independent reviewer was should be getting at least as much blame as the Dolphins' coaches.

Im assuming Tua lied to the independent neurologist and the neurologist took it as "good enough for me".

I wonder if video review is part of the process. I have to wonder if the independent neurologist actually saw what happened to Tua on Sunday. It's hard to believe someone could see that and then go, "oh sure, that's not a concussion. I know that for SURE. Back spasms seem more likely".

You could see the dude's head bounce off the grass. His head was dangling when he sat up like it was about to fall off his neck.

FFS, he even did the little headshake thing like he was trying to shake it off before getting up.

Concussion seemed obvious and that was BEFORE the wobble legs.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Im assuming Tua lied to the independent neurologist and the neurologist took it as "good enough for me".

I wonder if video review is part of the process. I have to wonder if the independent neurologist actually saw what happened to Tua on Sunday. It's hard to believe someone could see that and then go, "oh sure, that's not a concussion. I know that for SURE. Back spasms seem more likely".

You could see the dude's head bounce off the grass. His head was dangling when he sat up like it was about to fall off his neck.

FFS, he even did the little headshake thing like he was trying to shake it off before getting up.

Concussion seemed obvious and that was BEFORE the wobble legs.

All of these.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Im assuming Tua lied to the independent neurologist and the neurologist took it as "good enough for me".

I wonder if video review is part of the process. I have to wonder if the independent neurologist actually saw what happened to Tua on Sunday. It's hard to believe someone could see that and then go, "oh sure, that's not a concussion. I know that for SURE. Back spasms seem more likely".

You could see the dude's head bounce off the grass. His head was dangling when he sat up like it was about to fall off his neck.

FFS, he even did the little headshake thing like he was trying to shake it off before getting up.

Concussion seemed obvious and that was BEFORE the wobble legs.

The neurologist isn't just asking him questions about how he feels. There is a panel of tests they do. Kelce even mentioned how tedious a process it was on his last podcast.

Its possible he passed the test even though he had some level of head trauma.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

The neurologist isn't just asking him questions about how he feels. There is a panel of tests they do. Kelce even mentioned how tedious a process it was on his last podcast.

Its possible he passed the test even though he had some level of head trauma.

And my recollection is that these are tailored to each player's respective baselines.

I think he probably DID pass the test. And I'd be surprised if the test wasn't properly administered.

I just think it MIGHT expose a small hole in the net. But the more you try to make this a 'judgment call' issue, the more you're going to open the door to criticism when someone gets pulled out by a judgment call during a playoff game or something.

The league should probably tread lightly here. They have made HUGE strides and I honestly think what they've put in place is sufficient. If the rules were followed, I don't think they should tinker with it too much.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Im assuming Tua lied to the independent neurologist and the neurologist took it as "good enough for me".

That's a pretty big...and silly...assumption.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

That's a pretty big...and silly...assumption.

It's just as viable as anything else being tossed around right now.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

It's just as viable as anything else being tossed around right now.

Your post above pretty much contradicts your other post saying that such a thing isn't reasonable, so ok.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

That's a pretty big...and silly...assumption.

Oh because players don't do everything they can to return to the field, including lying about their symptoms, eh?

The idea that a player could pass the tests and lie and STILL have had head trauma just doesn't register as possible to you?

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Oh because players don't do everything they can to return to the field, including lying about their symptoms, eh?

The idea that a player could pass the tests and lie and STILL have had head trauma just doesn't register as possible to you?

Assuming that the independent neurologist hired to examine players didn't do an exam and instead just said "good enough for me" after Tua told him "I'm good" seems pretty ridiculous.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Assuming that the independent neurologist hired to examine players didn't do an exam and instead just said "good enough for me" after Tua told him "I'm good" seems pretty ridiculous.

Im obviously paraphrasing here dude, jesus christ.

Yes, Cosmo. I think the doctor said, "you good bro? Cool, now go win one for the gipper!"

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Im obviously paraphrasing here dude, jesus christ.

Yes, Cosmo. I think the doctor said, "you good bro? Cool, now go win one for the gipper!"

I really don't think I read too much into what you wrote. My bad, I guess.

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Im assuming Tua lied to the independent neurologist and the neurologist took it as "good enough for me".