Bills defensive plan vs the Chiefs

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

It doesn't work that way.

A change in those plays causes a ripple effect that changes the entire game.

Butterfly effect? In a football game?

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Butterfly effect? In a football game?

Yes, of course.

You start changing individual plays that lead to points, it potentially changes everything.

These coaches have different playcalls based on different down and distances, the scoreboard, trends in the game, etc.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yes, of course.

You start changing individual plays that lead to points, it potentially changes everything.

These coaches have different playcalls based on different down and distances, the scoreboard, trends in the game, etc.

Ehhhh . . . no one in their right mind is going to start basing play calls on the butterfly effect. They better not, anyway.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Ehhhh . . . no one in their right mind is going to start basing play calls on the butterfly effect. They better not, anyway.

I think the point is that you can't simply add missed opportunities after the game and say "if the Chiefs make two FGS, they win by 2", especially these days when things are driven so much by analytics.

If the score is different at any point in the game, the Bills may have done things differently such as going for it on a 4th down or whatever... and on top of that, it completely ignores the Bills' missed opportunities.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I think the point is that you can't simply add missed opportunities after the game and say "if the Chiefs make two FGS, they win by 2", especially these days when things are driven so much by analytics.

If the score is different at any point in the game, the Bills may have done things differently such as going for it on a 4th down or whatever... and on top of that, it completely ignores the Bills' missed opportunities.

Both teams definitely left a lot of points on the field, but I don't think Buffalo would have gone for it more often on 4th down if KC had an extra 6 points for instance. The Bills already failed multiple times on 4th down to begin with.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Both teams definitely left a lot of points on the field, but I don't think Buffalo would have gone for it more often on 4th down if KC had an extra 6 points for instance. The Bills already failed multiple times on 4th down to begin with.

At 26-17, it would come down to the play calling on the drive where the Bills punted and then not taking 4.5 minutes off the clock on their touchdown drive.... they score in a minute instead of taking their time and there's still 3:30 left at 26-24, and now the Chiefs are in a different spot.

Or on the Chiefs' 3 and out, up 9, it could be as simple as saying maybe they don't throw out of the shotgun in that situation and end up with 6 yards on the ground, changing that drive.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I think the point is that you can't simply add missed opportunities after the game and say "if the Chiefs make two FGS, they win by 2", especially these days when things are driven so much by analytics.

If the score is different at any point in the game, the Bills may have done things differently such as going for it on a 4th down or whatever... and on top of that, it completely ignores the Bills' missed opportunities.

Couldn't have said it better myself

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I think the point is that you can't simply add missed opportunities after the game and say "if the Chiefs make two FGS, they win by 2", especially these days when things are driven so much by analytics.

If the score is different at any point in the game, the Bills may have done things differently such as going for it on a 4th down or whatever... and on top of that, it completely ignores the Bills' missed opportunities.

sure, but if The Chiefs make two less mistakes (pick two out of like half a dozen) they win the game.

They didn't, so they didn't, but to act like Buffalo did some magical defensive voodoo is silly.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

sure, but if The Chiefs make two less mistakes (pick two out of like half a dozen) they win the game.

They didn't, so they didn't, but to act like Buffalo did some magical defensive voodoo is silly.

I didn't read the article, but on the surface it doesn't seem like that's what they are saying.... it's not magic, it's what many teams have been trying to achieve for a few years now, which is pressuring Mahomes without blitzing and giving him different looks to make it hard on him.

A team beats the Chiefs and there are going to be people breaking down the film... it's no big deal. The Chiefs can clean up some stuff while also tipping their cap to the Bills.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I didn't read the article, but on the surface it doesn't seem like that's what they are saying.... it's not magic, it's what many teams have been trying to achieve for a few years now, which is pressuring Mahomes without blitzing and giving him different looks to make it hard on him.

A team beats the Chiefs and there are going to be people breaking down the film... it's no big deal. The Chiefs can clean up some stuff while also tipping their cap to the Bills.

absolutely.

But KC lost because of poor execution, and nothing else.

The Bills get credit for making more plays, and fewer mistakes. Plain and simple.