2023 Cap Discussion

[Dante84]

If we were to absolutely max out all restructures, we would have almost $119M in cap space according to Over The Cap.

Effective Cap Space: $8,449,166

Simple Restructure: $67,070,657
Possible Cap Space: $75,519,823

Maximum Restructure: $110,459,052
Possible Cap Space: $118,908,218

According to @Jason_OTC, the #Chiefs could have $118,908,218 in cap space in 2023, with maximum restructures.

That would be the fourth-most cap space if every team maximized their restructures. #InVeachWeTrust pic.twitter.com/0ezsiCNhFc

— Jacob Milham (@JMilTheHam) November 3, 2022

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

You're high if you think JJSS should only be expecting Christian Kirk money. If things continue like they are, then Juju is going to have a 1400 yd, 1200 yd, 900 yd, and 800 yd season in 6 seasons. He had 2 bad seasons because of injury. Kirk has has one season with anywhere close to 1000 yds.

If Juju wants to he's going to get close to $25 mil/yr.

Kirk has put up 4.5 yrs, 64 games, 3400 yards,21 tds, 149 first downs
JJSS has put up 5.5 yrs, 70 games, 4349 yards, 28 tds, 206 first downs

JJSS has played with HOF QBs, Kirk has not. Just saying - they are not actually that far apart.

If I am the Chiefs, I basically offer the Kirk deal +5% to JJSS, and if he takes it, great. Otherwise, that money needs to go to the trenches.

[kccrow]

If the Packers tender Nijman at anything less than a 1st round RFA tender, then I'm making that move to replace OBJ. If it's a 1st, then I'd rather make a move up for Jaelyn Duncan.

I'd also look at signing his linemate, Elgton Jenkins, at RT.

As for DE, I think I'd throw numbers at it. If they come reasonably, maybe sign two of a few guys like Dawuane Smoot, Charles Omenihu, and Rasheem Green. I'd look for a speed rusher in the middle of the draft.

At WR, I'm not much on either of JJSS or MVS. If I had to pick my poison, I'd cut ties with MVS and re-sign JJSS. That said, there's a handful of guys I like in FA that I feel better about. Noah Brown, Darius Slayton, Nelson Agholor, and Jakobi Meyers would be at the top of my list. Honestly, cutting MVS and letting JJSS walk then signing a couple of these dudes would be what I'd do and if I honed in it would be Agholor and Slayton.

[In58men]

Poona Ford and nobody else

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Kirk has put up 4.5 yrs, 64 games, 3400 yards,21 tds, 149 first downs
JJSS has put up 5.5 yrs, 70 games, 4349 yards, 28 tds, 206 first downs

JJSS has played with HOF QBs, Kirk has not. Just saying - they are not actually that far apart.

If I am the Chiefs, I basically offer the Kirk deal +5% to JJSS, and if he takes it, great. Otherwise, that money needs to go to the trenches.

You cant really take into account Kirks season this year, because he's already been paid. So if you take there by game average and extrapolate that over a 17 game seasons this is how they'd compare.

JJSS - 87 receptions, 1056 yds, 7 TDs
Kirk - 59 receptions, 881 yds, 5 TDs

DK got $24 mil yr and this is what his per game avg extrapolates to a full 17 game season, before he got paid.

75 receptions, 1100 yds, 10 TDs

Deebo Samuel has had literally 1 great season and is making just under $24 mil/yr.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

You cant really take into account Kirks season this year, because he's already been paid. So if you take there by game average and extrapolate that over a 17 game seasons this is how they'd compare.

JJSS - 87 receptions, 1056 yds, 7 TDs
Kirk - 59 receptions, 881 yds, 5 TDs

DK got $24 mil yr and this is what his per game avg extrapolates to a full 17 game season, before he got paid.

75 receptions, 1100 yds, 10 TDs

Deebo Samuel has had literally 1 great season and is making just under $24 mil/yr.

DK plays outside while JJSS and Kirk play inside. I do not think DK is a better comp.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

How does letting Hardman walk net anything? He's a free agent, he doesn't account for anything on the books currently. Letting him walk only nets the opportunity cost of what his contract would be if we kept him, which will be more than $4.4 million a year.

Will you be paying him the $4.4M he makes in 2022 next year? No, so that's $4.4M more you have to spend. I agree, he'll probably get more than that next year from somebody, just not the Chiefs.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by kccrow

If the Packers tender Nijman at anything less than a 1st round RFA tender, then I'm making that move to replace OBJ. If it's a 1st, then I'd rather make a move up for Jaelyn Duncan.

I'd also look at signing his linemate, Elgton Jenkins, at RT.

As for DE, I think I'd throw numbers at it. If they come reasonably, maybe sign two of a few guys like Dawuane Smoot, Charles Omenihu, and Rasheem Green. I'd look for a speed rusher in the middle of the draft.

At WR, I'm not much on either of JJSS or MVS. If I had to pick my poison, I'd cut ties with MVS and re-sign JJSS. That said, there's a handful of guys I like in FA that I feel better about. Noah Brown, Darius Slayton, Nelson Agholor, and Jakobi Meyers would be at the top of my list. Honestly, cutting MVS and letting JJSS walk then signing a couple of these dudes would be what I'd do and if I honed in it would be Agholor and Slayton.

Meyers is the guy I'd lose a JJSS or MVS for. I mean, if JJSS plays like he did against SF for the rest of the season maybe not, but I could see him being available for less than crazy money and he's definitely a different type of WR that looks like he could be effective anywhere. Not crazy big or fast but always seems open. I don't know how he meshes with other WRs here so I guess that's my only question, but I think over the past 3 years he's been a better WR than JJSS or MVS.

[Couch-Potato]

JJSS is our new and much improved Sammy Watkins, I hope he stays.

[O.city]

Conklin at rt next year wouldn’t be bad

[Dunerdr]

I’m going to need you guys to get this thread back in gear. Yesterday every time I would finish a page the. Look up there would be a new deer entering my food plot. Come guys, I need a little tree stand reading again today!

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

DK plays outside while JJSS and Kirk play inside. I do not think DK is a better comp.

It doesn't matter where they play. Cooper Kupp played 2/3 of his snaps from the slot and didn't have a problem getting a huge contract. Tyreek Hill played over 50% of his snaps from the slot position.

It doesn't matter where they play as long as they produce.