Some Quick Things

[Ming the Merciless]

i dont think its "nuts" to be unhappy with spags


it has been tears of poor tackling, no linebackers until literally bolton and gay


under performing DL , until the last part of that game when they HAD to pass...


Hats off to the D last night. But im not gonna crown anyone for holding the titans to 17.


We just got mcduffie and gay back so hopefully things will be getting better and better.... we NEED to be able to rely on our D like we did last night sometimes... as great as mahomes is, no one can carry that much weight.



The titans are one dimensional with a shitty QB last night. Lets see this D improve and do well against some high powered offenses. I think we have the personnel with mcduffie, bolton, gay, sneed, clark, jones, etc.. dunlap and karlaftis too. So its not a personnel issue if we continue to have issues

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

i dont think its "nuts" to be unhappy with spags


it has been tears of poor tackling, no linebackers until literally bolton and gay


under performing DL , until the last part of that game when they HAD to pass...


Hats off to the D last night. But im not gonna crown anyone for holding the titans to 17.


We just got mcduffie and gay back so hopefully things will be getting better and better.... we NEED to be able to rely on our D like we did last night sometimes... as great as mahomes is, no one can carry that much weight.



The titans are one dimensional with a shitty QB last night. Lets see this D improve and do well against some high powered offenses. I think we have the personnel with mcduffie, bolton, gay, sneed, clark, jones, etc.. dunlap and karlaftis too. So its not a personnel issue if we continue to have issues

Good post.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

i dont think its "nuts" to be unhappy with spags


it has been tears of poor tackling, no linebackers until literally bolton and gay


under performing DL , until the last part of that game when they HAD to pass...


Hats off to the D last night. But im not gonna crown anyone for holding the titans to 17.


We just got mcduffie and gay back so hopefully things will be getting better and better.... we NEED to be able to rely on our D like we did last night sometimes... as great as mahomes is, no one can carry that much weight.



The titans are one dimensional with a shitty QB last night. Lets see this D improve and do well against some high powered offenses. I think we have the personnel with mcduffie, bolton, gay, sneed, clark, jones, etc.. dunlap and karlaftis too. So its not a personnel issue if we continue to have issues

Wtf are you talking about? Cardinals were the 8th best offense 2021, LAC 4th, BUF 5th, SF 7th, LVR 11th, TB 2nd. That's 6 of the top-10 best offenses from last year that we played to start the 2022 season.

Only two of those offenses scored more than 24 points against our defense.

Only one team has scored more than 29 points.


What are you, blind?

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Only two of those offenses scored more than 24 points against our defense.

Only one team has scored more than 29 points.


What are you, blind?

so you're saying 24+ and 29+ are good performances?


and youre going by last years offensive numbers?


buffalo beat us..SF lost their starting QB...TB is trash this year...LVR is trash this year...LAC is trash this year..AZ has what , 3 wins?



Im not sold yet. How bout we go by THIS years results.? I mean you can tell yourself that these teams that were ok in 2021 are "high powered" now... but on your list only BUF remains, in my mind. Maybe SF....
Sorry i need to see alot more than barely beating a 1 dimensional team like the Titans before I am cock strutting about spags D. We finally have the personnel. So if he doesnt execute its on him.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

so you're saying 24+ and 29+ are good performances?


and youre going by last years offensive numbers?


buffalo beat us..SF lost their starting QB...TB is trash this year...LVR is trash this year...LAC is trash this year..AZ has what , 3 wins?



Im not sold yet. How bout we go by THIS years results.? I mean you can tell yourself that these teams that were ok in 2021 are "high powered" now... but on your list only BUF remains, in my mind. Maybe SF....
Sorry i need to see alot more than barely beating a 1 dimensional team like the Titans before I am cock strutting about spags D. We finally have the personnel. So if he doesnt execute its on him.

Actually, the fact that this defense has only given up more than 24 points twice in 8 games vs. the talent-level they've faced is not bad at all. Regardless of their records, all of those teams have the talent on their rosters to score piles of points, particularly when facing a defense starting as many rookies/new guys as KC has been playing.


Wrote a big long argument, then said eff it. i know the defense is improving and will be a top-10 unit by week 12 or so. you just want to bitch. Fine.

Just be prepared to eat a lot of crow when they prove you wrong. Again.

Oh, one other thing: TEN scored just 3 points in the second half on their second possession. On every other possession TEN had in the second half and in OT they scored zero. nada. zilch. goose egg. Derrick Henry ran for less than 10 yards in the second half, no scores. TEN converted just ONE 3RD DOWN. 1-11.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Just be prepared to eat a lot of crow when they prove you wrong. Again.

"proved me wrong" by agreeing that we need to improve?



We just got gay and mcduffie back .. of course we will improve. What was I wrong about?

i know the defense is improving and will be a top-10 unit by week 12 or so.

I had this expectation as well. I posted this in the beginning of the season. I think we agree here. But if they don't theres 1 guy to blame.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

We finally have the personnel. So if he doesnt execute its on him.

McDuffie has played exactly one full game. The other guys are rookies. The defensive line is woefully understaffed.

To say he has the personnel is being disingenuous a bit.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

McDuffie has played exactly one full game. The other guys are rookies. The defensive line is woefully understaffed.

To say he has the personnel is being disingenuous a bit.

Yup. What he has done with what he has been given is nothing short of amazing. They aren’t the 85 Bears, but they are playing quite well given the age of this defense and the regression of others on the line.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

McDuffie has played exactly one full game. The other guys are rookies. The defensive line is woefully understaffed.

To say he has the personnel is being disingenuous a bit.

well its kind of splitting hairs (saying personnel is not the right term) but mcduffie is a top pick. gay isnt a rookie and is now back. 2 years ago we had exactly 0 linebackers. Weve got good players at all 3 levels now. Would you prefer talent?


- clark, jones, maybe karlaftis improving (high pick)
-gay and bolton
- sneed & mcduffie (high pick)


I dont think its being disingenuous to say this is the deepest weve been at the 3 levels and this D has the most potential of any in the mahomes years...



So my expectations are high. If they dont achieve, theres 1 guy to blame.

[RINGLEADER]

I don't mind running the ball but use your speed and make the other guys fight to make the stop. Running straight ahead headlong into a mass of humanity over and over and over again just makes zero sense. I'm sure in the playbook there are all kinds of holes opening and the play is obviously designed to work, but after 10 attempts at variations on the same thing, you have to hang it up. Jet sweeps and bubble screens aren't necessarily an elixir for this kind of defensive game planning, but it would have been great to see us try a bit more of that and to get the Titans' interior moving laterally more to tire them out if nothing else.

[FAX]

11ish.

What the hell happened to our screen game? IMHO, screens would have helped us a great deal against the Flaming Tacks. In fact, the Tacks have the kind of defense that would have a mental breakdown once you effectively attack them horizontally.

Since I blame him for all kinds of stuff, I blame EB.

FAX THE COMPLAINANT

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by FAX

11ish.

What the hell happened to our screen game? IMHO, screens would have helped us a great deal against the Flaming Tacks. In fact, the Tacks have the kind of defense that would have a mental breakdown once you effectively attack them horizontally.

Since I blame him for all kinds of stuff, I blame EB.

FAX THE COMPLAINANT

They ran a couple of screens and the Titans were ready for it. It wasn't working.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by FAX

11ish.

What the hell happened to our screen game? IMHO, screens would have helped us a great deal against the Flaming Tacks. In fact, the Tacks have the kind of defense that would have a mental breakdown once you effectively attack them horizontally.

Since I blame him for all kinds of stuff, I blame EB.

FAX THE COMPLAINANT

They weren't blitzing much, so Screens are much tougher to execute.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by FAX

11ish.

What the hell happened to our screen game? IMHO, screens would have helped us a great deal against the Flaming Tacks. In fact, the Tacks have the kind of defense that would have a mental breakdown once you effectively attack them horizontally.

Since I blame him for all kinds of stuff, I blame EB.

FAX THE COMPLAINANT

They had the plan to beat that defense and it was the short passing game. They got away from it after some mistakes and penalties which ****ed them. Once they got back to it though, and the refs stopped throwing a flag every 2 plays, it worked.

[O.city]

It was a carbon copy of some games last year.

What point did he really become hesitant? Seemed to me it was the Kelce tip INT.