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Old 11-07-2022, 09:57 AM   #1
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There were plenty of times he had a pocket and dropped his head.

He wasn't on his game last night. But he's a great player so he kept shooting. That's fine and it's something the best will do.

But he was surprisingly shakey for most of the night considering he was responsible for 500 yards of offense. He missed a LOT of guys out there. That FG in OT came after he missed a walk-in TD to JJSS on a skinny post right before the 4th down conversion. He missed Hardman several times and he seemed to get into that 'wait wait wait' mode when it came to taking his underneath guys, especially his check downs.

He had a bulldog night; one of those nights where an elite pitcher doesn't have his stuff but battles through for 6 innings and 2 earned to give you a chance to win the game. But unlike a pitcher, the person he gave the chance to win was him.

But for all the credit Mahomes will get, it was the defense that saved our ass. That D was exceptional. The 2nd half+ shutout will get all the credit, but man, they were actually pretty damn good from from the 55 yard run by Henry onward.

Mahomes didn't have an A game at all. But it's worth giving him (and the team writ large) credit in that a C- game for him ended up being good enough to beat a quality opponent.

Throw the ball 60+ times and there are going to be pressures, but apart from a couple of pressures up the gut that Smith surrendered (man he's off), PM had decent time on several occasions and just wasn't seeing the field as well as he usually does.
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Old 11-07-2022, 10:30 AM   #2
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He looks like he drops his head alot but he really doesn't.

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Old 11-07-2022, 10:35 AM   #3
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He looks like he drops his head but he really doesn't.

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He did and he didn't.

So a major difference between Willis and a quality QB, let alone an elite one like Mahomes, is that Willis, when he dropped his head, was DONE. And shit, Smith did that to. As soon as he came off his targets to find the rush, he was not gonna hit the Triangle button and bring those passing icons back up. He was looking to scramble from that point forward.

PM and other great QBs don't do that. They'll drop the passing icons, hit X to break the pocket, then bring the passing icons back up JUUUUUST in case someone gets back open.

But Mahomes, when he's truly dialed in, doesn't bother with any of that. He's just gonna know where everyone is and even on a play like the one Baldinger is talking about, he makes a smaller movement up to buy a tiny bit of space and lets it go.

He was dropping the icons more often than usual last night. Oftentimes without truly needing to. Again, I think because of Wylie's struggles and some really bad beats from Smith, we're acting like he was harassed all night - he really wasn't. I mean think of that throw into double coverage to Moore (that could've/should've been an arm punt) - he had all DAY to throw. And if my memory serves, he had MVS running wide ass open for about 12-15 yards. He just didn't come off the deep shot even though it very clearly wasn't there.
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He did and he didn't.

So a major difference between Willis and a quality QB, let alone an elite one like Mahomes, is that Willis, when he dropped his head, was DONE. And shit, Smith did that to. As soon as he came off his targets to find the rush, he was not gonna hit the Triangle button and bring those passing icons back up. He was looking to scramble from that point forward.

PM and other great QBs don't do that. They'll drop the passing icons, hit X to break the pocket, then bring the passing icons back up JUUUUUST in case someone gets back open.

But Mahomes, when he's truly dialed in, doesn't bother with any of that. He's just gonna know where everyone is and even on a play like the one Baldinger is talking about, he makes a smaller movement up to buy a tiny bit of space and lets it go.

He was dropping the icons more often than usual last night. Oftentimes without truly needing to. Again, I think because of Wylie's struggles and some really bad beats from Smith, we're acting like he was harassed all night - he really wasn't. I mean think of that throw into double coverage to Moore (that could've/should've been an arm punt) - he had all DAY to throw. And if my memory serves, he had MVS running wide ass open for about 12-15 yards. He just didn't come off the deep shot even though it very clearly wasn't there.
Great point about breaking the pocket and going back to look down the field. It really comes down to how confidant he feels about his protection whether he starts to bail or not. He had like 4 sacks last night all in the pocket?
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