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Old 11-09-2022, 10:49 AM  
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Is CEH on his way out of KC?
I was watching the All 22 and it suddenly dawned on me - CEH barely saw the field.

So I started digging through his snap counts and discovered that his snaps dropped by almost THIRTY since Tampa.

In the last two games he's only had 17 snaps in each game. In fact, when you factor in the total number of plays on offense, his numbers have dropped from an average of about 43% of total snaps to 27% against San Fran and 17% against the Titans.

They weren't kidding when they said they were going to make Pacheco the starter but from what I can see, CEH is now the THIRD RB.

Are the Chiefs signaling something here?
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Old 11-09-2022, 11:00 AM   #16
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Old 11-09-2022, 11:00 AM   #17
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Ceh was our best RB against Tennessee..haha. cuz he had that big catch
McKinnon was far and away the best RB in the Titans game. We threw the ball 68 times and his pass protection was near perfect.
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Old 11-09-2022, 11:01 AM   #18
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Mecole Hardman treatment. Basically benched
Man, you've gotta just hate watching Mecole have such a good year this year.
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Old 11-09-2022, 11:07 AM   #19
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I think the biggest problem, by far, with the offense is the offensive line.

I'm more talking specifically about how the backs are being used, regardless of their effectiveness.

CEH's usage has fallen off a cliff.
Maybe they are searching for something that works. I'm not going to look at it from a snap count perspective. I am going to look at it at a usage perspective. And looking at the numbers lately it looks like to me they are being for the most part splitting the play calls that go to each one. For instance last game Pacheco with 5 touches, CEH with 6 touches, Jet with 9 touches. Game before that where Pacheco had his 1st start. Pacheco 8 touches, CEH with 6 touches, Jet with 4 touches.

This is essentially RBBC without calling it that. My personal opinion is that Andy doesn't look at or uses RB's in the same traditional manner that every one thinks. It is all about the touch count. Not YPC or snap count. Personnel groupings and play calling have a lot to do with as well.

I agree with you the problem is due in part to the OL though. OBJ made the wrong bet.
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I think it's "rbbc" is code for "none of these guys are good".
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Old 11-09-2022, 11:12 AM   #21
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I think it's "rbbc" is code for "none of these guys are good".
Most teams are going to splitting touches between multiple backs. Most of the successful teams in the AFC do.
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Most teams are going to splitting touches between multiple backs. Most of the successful teams in the AFC do.
None of them are good at running the ball.
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None of them are good at running the ball.
We are in a passing league.
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We went so heavy on the pass that McKinnon was the obvious option.

I really wonder what the coaching staff saw that had them quit on the run that early and that completely. Not that I minded it, but even Andy doesn't usually just say "**** it - Pat, go sling it 70 times..."

They had to have seen something that convinced them to just close shop on the run game in the 1st quarter.
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We went so heavy on the pass that McKinnon was the obvious option.

I really wonder what the coaching staff saw that had them quit on the run that early and that completely. Not that I minded it, but even Andy doesn't usually just say "**** it - Pat, go sling it 70 times..."

They had to have seen something that convinced them to just close shop on the run game in the 1st quarter.
Part of it could have been that the Titans defensive line was killing any chance we had.
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