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Old 11-02-2022, 09:18 PM  
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Kadarius Toney vows to ‘do it my hardest’ to elevate Chiefs’ offense after trade

Kadarius Toney vows to ‘do it my hardest’ to elevate Chiefs’ offense after trade



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Old 11-12-2022, 07:34 AM   #211
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Moore was always a pick for '23.

But with Toney and Moore in the fold for '23, I feel pretty good.
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Moore will be fine. He's a rookie, while Toney clearly is not. Lot of talent on this offense.
I remember hearing after the draft that this was for 23, Getting up to speed and learning this year.
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Old 11-12-2022, 07:42 AM   #212
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I think it's neat that he got a few touches in his first game!
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Old 11-12-2022, 08:43 AM   #213
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I remember hearing after the draft that this was for 23, Getting up to speed and learning this year.
Yep.

I don't know why I'm bothering to try to explain this to people, because here on Histrionics Planet, where everyone is a more knowledgeable football mind than Andy Reid or Brett Veach, but I'll try once more.

In Andy's offense, we don't have a slot receiver position, and an 'X' position, and a 'Y' position. We have eligible receivers, and anyone from a RB to a TE to a typical WR can be any of those things depending on 1)the play call, 2)the pre-snap read, which might change the call and formation before the snap.

So We have guys with different skill-sets, and different body types, but they have to learn ALL of the route combinations from all of the positions and be responsible for that at any time. This is further complicated with the post-snap reads, which may require the receivers in the pattern to adjust those routes on the fly in real time in order to match what Mahomes wants depending on the coverage.

A guy might initially line up in the slot, motion to the 'Y' based on a pre snap read and adjust a route after the snap based on the coverage in such a way as to help the 'X' get clear.

This is why it's difficult for rookies to get a lot of snaps. They have to adjust to the speed of the NFL, and then they have to learn an extremely complicated offense for all three WR positions, which can alter pre snap, at the snap, and post snap.

Sometimes Andy schemes up some specific plays to get a guy touches, like Toney last week-but make no mistake, those are schemed touches, much like the majority of Hardman's touches even to this day.

Moore will be fine. If Toney keeps his head on straight, he'll be fine. Maybe great.

People need to be patient.
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