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Old 11-28-2022, 10:35 AM  
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Boy has this list been reshaped this year. Concensus top 4 were Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Brady. After that in no particular order, were Burrow, Herbert, Wilson, Stafford, Carr, and Jackoff.
Right now, Mahomes is the number one, Tua, Allen, and Hurts and Burrow would round out the top 5. Dak would probably be next, then who? Herbert? Geno? Would you put Carr, Lamar, and/or Jimmy G in the top 10? I can't think of anyone else that I could put above them this year. Wilson, Brady, and Rodgers all fell off so much that they don't belong there anymore. (Wilson doesn't even belong in the league anymore).
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:38 AM   #2
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:39 AM   #4
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Boy has this list been reshaped this year. Concensus top 4 were Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Brady. After that in no particular order, were Burrow, Herbert, Wilson, Stafford, Carr, and Jackoff.
Right now, Mahomes is the number one, Tua, Allen, and Hurts and Burrow would round out the top 5. Dak would probably be next, then who? Herbert? Geno? Would you put Carr, Lamar, and/or Jimmy G in the top 10? I can't think of anyone else that I could put above them this year. Wilson, Brady, and Rodgers all fell off so much that they don't belong there anymore. (Wilson doesn't even belong in the league anymore).
Sorry, I don't see it with Hurts.

He's having a great year but I still think lots of smoke and mirrors here.
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:42 AM   #5
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Old 11-28-2022, 10:49 AM   #6
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In whatever order you wannna put them in I guess.
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I forgot about Cousins. He has been solid this year.
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Sorry, I don't see it with Hurts.

He's having a great year but I still think lots of smoke and mirrors here.
I agree. I'm not a fan of quarterbacks who run for as many yards as they throw. But, the media loves that crap and have him in the MVP conversation, so I had to put him in the top 5.
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I agree. I'm not a fan of quarterbacks who run for as many yards as they throw. But, the media loves that crap and have him in the MVP conversation, so I had to put him in the top 5.
I think this is the Foles effect.

Great oline and scheme hiding his defects.



Of course Foles was sprung on the NFL late. I think NFL defenses figure this out before too long.
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Of course they'll figure this out, then it's up to him to pivot and get better.

Happens to all young QBs.
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I don't know but Jimmy G has to be around #10. He's underrated. The test of a good QB is how you perform on 3rd downs and he is good on 3rd downs.
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Lot of ways to think about this. But if I'm thinking I need to win one game, say the SB, and I can pick any QB I want, then probably in this order:

Mahomes
Allen
Hurts
Burrow
Tua
Herbert
Aaron Rodgers
Cousins
Dak
Jackson

Top-5 are pretty much in order. Tua is having a better season than Herbert right now, but obviously Herbert has the more elite physical abilities. Call it a coinflip at 5 & 6.

I'd take a healthy AR over any of the last three QBs just based on ability, and he's won a SB, so 7 is pretty set.

Cousins and Dak are kind of the same guy, in that both are better than average QBs, that can't carry a team based just on their individual abilities, but if surrounded by enough talent on both sides of the ball, they both can be very successful. So, either one could be 8 or 9.

Lamar. Not even certain he should be included at all in the top-10, but based just on his running ability, I can't think of another QB that I'd trust more of the remaining 22 QBs to at least keep me in the game and give me a chance to win.
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Lot of ways to think about this. But if I'm thinking I need to win one game, say the SB, and I can pick any QB I want, then probably in this order:

Mahomes
Allen
Hurts
Burrow
Tua
Herbert
Aaron Rodgers
Cousins
Dak
Jackson

Top-5 are pretty much in order. Tua is having a better season than Herbert right now, but obviously Herbert has the more elite physical abilities. Call it a coinflip at 5 & 6.

I'd take a healthy AR over any of the last three QBs just based on ability, and he's won a SB, so 7 is pretty set.

Cousins and Dak are kind of the same guy, in that both are better than average QBs, that can't carry a team based just on their individual abilities, but if surrounded by enough talent on both sides of the ball, they both can be very successful. So, either one could be 8 or 9.

Lamar. Not even certain he should be included at all in the top-10, but based just on his running ability, I can't think of another QB that I'd trust more of the remaining 22 QBs to at least keep me in the game and give me a chance to win.
It's interesting that besides Mahomes, the only QB on that list who has accomplished a damn thing is Rodgers.
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It's interesting that besides Mahomes, the only QB on that list who has accomplished a damn thing is Rodgers.
Yeah, and that has to be part of the argument, I think. however, I left Brady off as well, and he's the most accomplished QB in NFL history. But he hasn't been nearly as clutch this season as he was in the past, and he comes with a lot of weaknesses that have to be propped up, like Dak or Cousins. So he's not on my list. Last season he would've been.
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Boy has this list been reshaped this year. Concensus top 4 were Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Brady. After that in no particular order, were Burrow, Herbert, Wilson, Stafford, Carr, and Jackoff.
Right now, Mahomes is the number one, Tua, Allen, and Hurts and Burrow would round out the top 5. Dak would probably be next, then who? Herbert? Geno? Would you put Carr, Lamar, and/or Jimmy G in the top 10? I can't think of anyone else that I could put above them this year. Wilson, Brady, and Rodgers all fell off so much that they don't belong there anymore. (Wilson doesn't even belong in the league anymore).
Rodgers and Brady being top 4 in 2022 was never "consensus". Most pundits did not have them in their top 4 at all.

That's like saying there's a consensus that the earth is 6,000 years old.

And Tua a top 5 Qb? No one outside of click bait network heads are saying that shit.
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I agree. I'm not a fan of quarterbacks who run for as many yards as they throw. But, the media loves that crap and have him in the MVP conversation, so I had to put him in the top 5.
I'm not a fan of my franchise QB being a run first quarterback.

But you can build a winning formula around that and Hurts is playing at a big time level.

Who knows how long it will last, but that's not to say he isn't a top QB as of right now.
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