14 missed tackles yesterday

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by DRM08

What's the old quote? "You are either coaching it or allowing it to happen." A team that cannot tackle is soft. A team that gets bullied in the trenches on both sides of the ball is soft. Coaches are not pressing the correct buttons to make these guys play like a tougher team.

I am so sick of these Spags ball washers and how they attribute any good play to Spags, and poor play to the players. It's FN ridiculous.

Marty emphasized takeaways, and we always were at the top of the league in turnover differential.

Great DCs like Buddy Ryan or Dick LeBeau emphasized tackling, and their defenses were great at tackling.

What does Spags emphasize? Because it sure TF isn't takeaways or tackling.

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[Rasputin]

Nobody cares about that what people outside of us care about is that Burrow beat Mahomes yet again. That stings and can't shake it off till we even the score and win another Super Bowl.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Nobody cares about that what people outside of us care about is that Burrow beat Mahomes yet again. That stings and can't shake it off till we even the score and win another Super Bowl.

People outside of us don't matter. Our opinions are more informed and knowledgeable than theirs.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

People outside of us don't matter. Our opinions are more informed and knowledgeable than theirs.

Yeah! They're all stupid and fat and smell like vinegar.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Nobody cares about that what people outside of us care about is that Burrow beat Mahomes yet again. That stings and can't shake it off till we even the score and win another Super Bowl.

I know people are dumb enough to go with the narratives, but it's a team game. That's why Mahomes had a losing record in college. The rest of the team was shitty.

Burrow has a better team behind him IMHO. Cincy has a better defense, which includes better tackling, better pass rush, & better secondary performance. KC's special teams have been pretty bad all year, so it's safe to assume the Bengals are better in that department. The coaching seems sharper with the Bengals as well. KC is a sloppy team and it starts with the coaches.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I know people are dumb enough to go with the narratives, but it's a team game. That's why Mahomes had a losing record in college. The rest of the team was shitty.

Burrow has a better team behind him IMHO. Cincy has a better defense, which includes better tackling, better pass rush, & better secondary performance. KC's special teams have been pretty bad all year, so it's safe to assume the Bengals are better in that department. The coaching seems sharper with the Bengals as well. KC is a sloppy team and it starts with the coaches.

Well, you know, they're still on Burrow's rookie deal.

And they'd been terrible for so long, they were drafting at the top of the round.

Now, I'm not saying their poorly coached-that's clearly a good coaching staff. But they have some institutional advantages that we no longer enjoy, and some that we never had because Andy had us in the play-offs every year even before Pat.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

I am so sick of these Spags ball washers and how they attribute any good play to Spags, and poor play to the players. It's FN ridiculous.

Marty emphasized takeaways, and we always were at the top of the league in turnover differential.

Great DCs like Buddy Ryan or Dick LeBeau emphasized tackling, and their defenses were great at tackling.

What does Spags emphasize? Because it sure TF isn't takeaways or tackling.

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Pressure.

That's really it.

Spags claim to fame is two victories over Tom Brady in the SB. He got Brady off his spot, threw off his game with a savage d line.

In our SB we were playing a shit qb that threw what 8 passes in one postseason game?

Pennel forced an eyes shut desperation interception, Jones batted a couple passes, Nieman got a huge hit on a 3rd down, and Frank got a sack at the end.

He doesn't scheme to take players away, he schemes to create pressure on the qb. As we saw, Sanders was wide open for the go ahead td, Jimmy just wasn't that guy to hit that throw in the clutch.

If pressure isnt affecting the qb, you get games like we saw Sunday.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

I am so sick of these Spags ball washers and how they attribute any good play to Spags, and poor play to the players. It's FN ridiculous.

Marty emphasized takeaways, and we always were at the top of the league in turnover differential.

Great DCs like Buddy Ryan or Dick LeBeau emphasized tackling, and their defenses were great at tackling.

What does Spags emphasize? Because it sure TF isn't takeaways or tackling.

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No they weren't always top of the league in turnover differential. Marty's defenses were always up and down year to year.

It's useless to romanticize a history that isn't true.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No they weren't always top of the league in turnover differential. Marty's defenses were always up and down year to year.

It's useless to romanticize a history that isn't true.

Those defenses drove me nuts with their tackling. It always seemed like they were more worried about trying to get a strip than to put the guy on the ground. 5 yards later......

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No they weren't always top of the league in turnover differential. Marty's defenses were always up and down year to year.



It's useless to romanticize a history that isn't true.

I think you are wrong. When I get a chance I will hit football reference to get the numbers

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[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No they weren't always top of the league in turnover differential. Marty's defenses were always up and down year to year.

It's useless to romanticize a history that isn't true.

I have absolutely no interest in discussing this era of Chiefs history with you, but since you are citing accuracy as the primary metric, 'wasn't always top of the league' should be tempered with 'led the league for the decade'

1990-1999, Chiefs were head and shoulders above everyone in TO differential.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I have absolutely no interest in discussing this era of Chiefs history with you, but since you are citing accuracy as the primary metric, 'wasn't always top of the league' should be tempered with 'led the league for the decade'



1990-1999, Chiefs were head and shoulders above everyone in TO differential.

My point in bringing it up was someone said that tackling is taught from Pop Warner day one, and I was saying teams excel in what their coaches emphasize.

I cited Marty with takeaways, and Buddy Ryan/Dick LeBeau with tackling. I asked what does Spags emphasize, because it's obviously neither of those.

Someone else said he emphasizes pressure, but while that does disrupt some offenses, it's not enough to win games against top tier offenses and QBs.

Spags has had 12 quarters tho year, and still can't figure out how to sack a very sackable QB. This is a huge failure on his part considering the rest of the league doesn't seem to have any issues sacking Burrow.

I just don't think Spags is the DC for this team. Also, D'Alesio needs to be gone, because our safeties have been horrible.

And maybe Merritt isn't the coach for developing young corners.

The defense looked great shutting down King Henry in the second half, but we won't be playing rookie QBs making their first start in the playoffs.

I just can't stand Spags and don't get why others go to ridiculous lengths to defend him.

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[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I have absolutely no interest in discussing this era of Chiefs history with you, but since you are citing accuracy as the primary metric, 'wasn't always top of the league' should be tempered with 'led the league for the decade'

1990-1999, Chiefs were head and shoulders above everyone in TO differential.

Because they had a great pass rush with Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith. It's VERY difficult to force turnovers without a consistent pass rush.

Also, as much as people hated him, Marcus Peters was great at taking the ball away. So was Mathieu. We don't have any ball hogs on this defense.