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Old 12-27-2022, 03:46 PM   #1
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I'm not sure who'd be tougher to work with, Russ or Kyler... there is no good answer here
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Old 12-27-2022, 04:20 PM   #2
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I'm not sure who'd be tougher to work with, Russ or Kyler... there is no good answer here
Without a doubt it’s Russell. Neither situation is ideal. Kyler is a shitty leader but he’s not egotistical twat. He may not be overly liked in his locker room but Russells teammates flat out despise him. You can keep kyler at average where Russell is going to get worse and worse since he can’t run anymore. And in a few years you can sell kyler very high.

It’s not ideal. But it’s manageable. You’re right that it’s not meant for a prime candidate like Payton. But may be a good spot for a defensive coach who can build around a run game and is happy to just be average.
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Old 12-27-2022, 04:22 PM   #3
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Without a doubt it’s Russell. Neither situation is ideal. Kyler is a shitty leader but he’s not egotistical twat. He may not be overly liked in his locker room but Russells teammates flat out despise him. You can keep kyler at average where Russell is going to get worse and worse since he can’t run anymore. And in a few years you can sell kyler very high.

It’s not ideal. But it’s manageable. You’re right that it’s not meant for a prime candidate like Payton. But may be a good spot for a defensive coach who can build around a run game and is happy to just be average.
Thats all a fair argument, except for the part about Murray not being an egotistical twat
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Thats all a fair argument, except for the part about Murray not being an egotistical twat
I don’t know that it’s ego. I don’t think he cares about football or others. Selfish and lazy maybe.
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I don’t know that it’s ego. I don’t think he cares about football or others. Selfish and lazy maybe.
I see the distinction you're wanting to make, and we more or less agree

My point is that it takes one helluva ego to BE that selfish and lazy, considering the money they're paying him and everything else thats at stake in the NFL
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