A Levelheaded Review Wk17

[DenverChief]

1. The missed XP & FG - didn't get to see another view of the XP snap - looks like Tommy just flat out dropped the ball. Love the initial effort to just take it in for 2 but when he realized he wasn't gonna get there it got ugly. Maybe Tommy is the problem. Need to figure out the XP/FG thing real quick. That will kill us in the playoffs. The missed FG at half, dunno what to say other that Butker flat out shanked that kick. I watched closely as the ball was snapped. It was a clean catch and perfect placement (laces out) Butker for whatever reason hit it like a parent chasing a child around the house.

2. EZ Interception. The Broncos seem to have figured out how to get Pat to throw picks. 4 total in the last two meetings combined. Disappointed in this one but Pat takes risks and sometimes they don't work out. I did think it was interesting that Pat didn't throw to Pat's side all game. Much respect for the Surtain.

3. Toney PR fumble was just good special teams work. Can't really fault Toney for fumbling - it was a good strip. Chiefs have to know other teams are looking to strip the ball now. Knowing that our guys aren't holding the ball with two hands in traffic.

4. Defense played really well multiple batted balls, couple of Wilson sacks and bottled their O pretty effectively. 2nd Q big 3rd down play with about a minute left. They just found the soft spot in the D, this is a direct result of LB's in coverage. Need to find that Sorenson hybrid LB/DB. Someone with size to play the run and speed to play the pass. Defense really came up big today when it counted and they have improved dramatically over the last couple of games. The addition of Brandon Williams seems to correlate with the improved pass rush and run D.

5. Watson, just when you thought he was done for he comes up with a huge play in the final seconds of the first half. Great catch - absolutely amazed at what Mahomes can make happen with very little time on the clock.

6. The Broncos are a proud organization they know the score and they are going to give us 110% every game year after year. We have to be prepared for that. Especially with the dismissal of their HC. Denver last swept us multiple years in the division from 2012 thru 2014. We have been sweeping them every year since 2016, 14 games in a row, quite the feat. Especially considering a lot our rivalry has been to split the series. They are no slouches and were projected to give the Chiefs a run for their money this year. Their Defense is really good - their offense is okay.

7. Patrick is back to playing the long ball game when it's not there. Gotta take the open stuff underneath. He missed Pacheco wide open in the flat a couple of times. Need to see the all 22 but Juju and Kelce both disappeared through the 1st three quarters. Need to game plan to get them in the game earlier.

8. Sneed wanted that pick 6 pretty bad and got absolutely leveled by Jerry Jeudy. Gotta have your head on a swivel if you are gonna dance around after an interception. Glad to see he is okay after taking that hit.

9. Referees - Pass interference the PI on Sutton was super ticky tacky as was the Williams PI. The 4th and 7th play was incredibly confusing. Illegal hands to the face (which no replay - show me the penalty - I hate them ignoring that) before the interception - 5 yard penalty makes it 4th & 2. The sticks were set up for 1st and 10 but the down marker was 4th down. Didn't matter as Jeudy got a 9 yard pass but talk about discombobulated. WTF was going on with the zebras today.

10. Injuries Thuney and Skyy. Obviously the Thuney injury hurts, hopefully it is just minor and can make a complete recovery before the playoffs.

[LOCOChief]

Looks to me that the missed FG at half was slightly tipped

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by LOCOChief

Looks to me that the missed FG at half was slightly tipped

Went in the statbook as blocked. Still Butker and Toub's fault though.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Thanks Obama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flFbGWnUfnU

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

the chiefs gave up way too many ****ing yards rushing

clean that shit up and the drops NOW

They could have defended Wilson better for sure. He had 30 of their 117. Had 4 sacks and missed on two others that were certain but he wriggled away.

[ChiefsFan63]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Yep.

But it's not a 'we're not good enough' problem, it's a 'focus' problem.

When you think about it, we play like three more games a year than most teams, and every single opponent is totally focused on beating us. They still rarely do, but man, it's got to be tough to maintain that 100% focus every snap, 20 games a year.

I think they just have mental lapses sometimes, I really do.

Not an excuse, just an explanation for what often seems unexplainable.

Kelce has even said during the podcast that it is difficult to maintain gain focus for 17 games. Hopefully we can get locked in soon.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by 2bikemike

Did anyone notice on the first TD drive they kept showing EB he looked upset about something.

I didn't see that

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Went in the statbook as blocked. Still Butker and Toub's fault though.

I mean Toub is in charge of special teams. How many special teams mistakes are we allowed in just about every phase of special teams before we point at the guy in charge?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by -King-

I mean Toub is in charge of special teams. How many special teams mistakes are we allowed in just about every phase of special teams before we point at the guy in charge?

Lol, what exactly should Toub have coached there? "Kick it 3 inches higher?"

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, what exactly should Toub have coached there? "Kick it 3 inches higher?"

He's in charge of the blocking scheme.

If this was just an isolated special teams incident, fine, shit happens. But special teams has been horrible all year. Either he's coaching like shit or he's not holding bad players accountable.


It's like an O-line coach. Sacks happen, but when they are happening at a ridiculous level, it goes back to the coach.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by -King-

He's in charge of the blocking scheme.

If this was just an isolated special teams incident, fine, shit happens. But special teams has been horrible all year. Either he's coaching like shit or he's not holding bad players accountable.


It's like an O-line coach. Sacks happen, but when they are happening at a ridiculous level, it goes back to the coach.

How many kicks have been blocked this season? How many since Toub became ST coach? I mean if this is some kind of epidemic that should be reflected in the stats, so show me some facts.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

How many kicks have been blocked this season? How many since Toub became ST coach? I mean if this is some kind of epidemic that should be reflected in the stats, so show me some facts.

He's not just the coach of unblocked kicks. He's the coach of special teams. A group that's failing at basically everything. When mistakes are happening at every phase, then it falls on him. It's not just 1 player struggling. It's also not players not executing tough plays. It's the simple shit that keeps breaking down.

But hey, I guess since this is a new special teams **** up, it's not his fault.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Yep.

But it's not a 'we're not good enough' problem, it's a 'focus' problem.

When you think about it, we play like three more games a year than most teams, and every single opponent is totally focused on beating us. They still rarely do, but man, it's got to be tough to maintain that 100% focus every snap, 20 games a year.

I think they just have mental lapses sometimes, I really do.

Not an excuse, just an explanation for what often seems unexplainable.

Well that’s why I don’t agree that many think efficiency is a long term strategy. It’s a great idea for what we have. But it magnifies every small mistake. You can’t drop passes. Miss on an overthrow. Because we have to sustain long drives with lots of third downs. And we find ourselves in so many 3rd and shorts which isn’t our bread and butter. i just don’t know that this kind of constant perfection of execution is in our dna.

[tyreekthefreak]

Toney had ball on defenders side when he fumbled....has to change hands with ball there. Toneys bad.

[chiefzilla1501]

Also just to be a broken record, why does it feel like our WRs never fight for the ball? The best WRs are pushing off and hand fighting. It feels like our WRs don’t attack the football. They wait for the ball to get to them. Just me?

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Well that’s why I don’t agree that many think efficiency is a long term strategy. It’s a great idea for what we have. But it magnifies every small mistake. You can’t drop passes. Miss on an overthrow. Because we have to sustain long drives with lots of third downs. And we find ourselves in so many 3rd and shorts which isn’t our bread and butter. i just don’t know that this kind of constant perfection of execution is in our dna.

You don't really have a choice.

We had Tyreek Hill, the deep threat of all deep threats and defenses just sat back in deep zones and made him a possession receiver.
Juju has a higher ypc this season than Hill had last year.

It's not like we just decided to be a ball control passing attack, it was and is an adjustment to how the NFL was defending us.

That's not going to change.

And the outlet pass to the back is STILL there all day long, we just don't always take it.

The other guys get paid too, ya know.