A Levelheaded Review Wk17

[DenverChief]

1. The missed XP & FG - didn't get to see another view of the XP snap - looks like Tommy just flat out dropped the ball. Love the initial effort to just take it in for 2 but when he realized he wasn't gonna get there it got ugly. Maybe Tommy is the problem. Need to figure out the XP/FG thing real quick. That will kill us in the playoffs. The missed FG at half, dunno what to say other that Butker flat out shanked that kick. I watched closely as the ball was snapped. It was a clean catch and perfect placement (laces out) Butker for whatever reason hit it like a parent chasing a child around the house.

2. EZ Interception. The Broncos seem to have figured out how to get Pat to throw picks. 4 total in the last two meetings combined. Disappointed in this one but Pat takes risks and sometimes they don't work out. I did think it was interesting that Pat didn't throw to Pat's side all game. Much respect for the Surtain.

3. Toney PR fumble was just good special teams work. Can't really fault Toney for fumbling - it was a good strip. Chiefs have to know other teams are looking to strip the ball now. Knowing that our guys aren't holding the ball with two hands in traffic.

4. Defense played really well multiple batted balls, couple of Wilson sacks and bottled their O pretty effectively. 2nd Q big 3rd down play with about a minute left. They just found the soft spot in the D, this is a direct result of LB's in coverage. Need to find that Sorenson hybrid LB/DB. Someone with size to play the run and speed to play the pass. Defense really came up big today when it counted and they have improved dramatically over the last couple of games. The addition of Brandon Williams seems to correlate with the improved pass rush and run D.

5. Watson, just when you thought he was done for he comes up with a huge play in the final seconds of the first half. Great catch - absolutely amazed at what Mahomes can make happen with very little time on the clock.

6. The Broncos are a proud organization they know the score and they are going to give us 110% every game year after year. We have to be prepared for that. Especially with the dismissal of their HC. Denver last swept us multiple years in the division from 2012 thru 2014. We have been sweeping them every year since 2016, 14 games in a row, quite the feat. Especially considering a lot our rivalry has been to split the series. They are no slouches and were projected to give the Chiefs a run for their money this year. Their Defense is really good - their offense is okay.

7. Patrick is back to playing the long ball game when it's not there. Gotta take the open stuff underneath. He missed Pacheco wide open in the flat a couple of times. Need to see the all 22 but Juju and Kelce both disappeared through the 1st three quarters. Need to game plan to get them in the game earlier.

8. Sneed wanted that pick 6 pretty bad and got absolutely leveled by Jerry Jeudy. Gotta have your head on a swivel if you are gonna dance around after an interception. Glad to see he is okay after taking that hit.

9. Referees - Pass interference the PI on Sutton was super ticky tacky as was the Williams PI. The 4th and 7th play was incredibly confusing. Illegal hands to the face (which no replay - show me the penalty - I hate them ignoring that) before the interception - 5 yard penalty makes it 4th & 2. The sticks were set up for 1st and 10 but the down marker was 4th down. Didn't matter as Jeudy got a 9 yard pass but talk about discombobulated. WTF was going on with the zebras today.

10. Injuries Thuney and Skyy. Obviously the Thuney injury hurts, hopefully it is just minor and can make a complete recovery before the playoffs.

[LongSufferingToady]

Special teams continues to be a problem with FG, EP and punt returns. It looks to me that Butker is going to be a problem in the playoffs. Chiefs should plan on it.

[LongSufferingToady]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

12. Subtract out Pat's scrambles, because none of those wre designed runs, and we ran the ball 12 times.

I put that all on Andy Reid. He got lazy again and thought with PM he could just phone it in.

[KCTitus]

For those of you that believe the NFL is rigged and KC is the recipient of the most ****ings should be very thankful there was no call for roughing the passer on the final sack of the game against Wilson. That has been called at least once this year.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

For those of you that believe the NFL is rigged and KC is the recipient of the most ****ings should be very thankful there was no call for roughing the passer on the final sack of the game against Wilson. That has been called at least once this year.

Oh yeah. And that OPI was weak as shit too.

There were some bad calls out way but we definitely benefited from a couple big ones.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFan63

I agree with almost everything in your analysis. This isn't a knock on what you wrote, just a difference of opinion.

The Toney fumble was due to his bad technique. For one he failed to switch the ball from his left arm to his right. This exposed the ball to the defender. This is something you are taught in peewee football. Secondly his ball security itself was lacking. The scrape across his arm would not have led to a fumble if he were carrying the ball high and tight. If the defender had drove his helmet through the ball I would certainly agree that this was just a good play, but in this case I believe he was mainly at fault.

One addition I would make is I thought the offensive line held up very well in pass protection today. Usually if Mahomes was flushed it was after his second read or later. He really seemed comfortable with his pocket today.

Good and fair writeup.

100% agreed. The OL did a really good Job today. I was a little perplexed by “apprehensive” Mahomes on scramble runs. He usually gets 7-8 yards on those and today his hesitation led to him getting only 3-4.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

100% agreed. The OL did a really good Job today. I was a little perplexed by “apprehensive” Mahomes on scramble runs. He usually gets 7-8 yards on those and today his hesitation led to him getting only 3-4.

Totally agree and not sure when it first started. In past seasons, he was always so decisive between run or pass. Multiple times a game, he hesitates to make that decision…which leads to a minimal gain while absorbing a hit, or a weird throw at someone’s feet. It drives me crazy. It’s almost as though they’ve coached that decisiveness out of him in a way. Very odd.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

100% agreed. The OL did a really good Job today. I was a little perplexed by “apprehensive” Mahomes on scramble runs. He usually gets 7-8 yards on those and today his hesitation led to him getting only 3-4.

He hesitated a couple times but I don’t think there was a clear opportunity to run for a first in either situation. Just because he seems to always scramble for the first in those situations doesn’t mean we should expect it every time.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

He hesitated a couple times but I don’t think there was a clear opportunity to run for a first in either situation. Just because he seems to always scramble for the first in those situations doesn’t mean we should expect it every time.

I don’t think he meant “running for a first down”. He meant there are more yards available than he is currently getting because of his apprehensiveness to just take off and go.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

100% agreed. The OL did a really good Job today. I was a little perplexed by “apprehensive” Mahomes on scramble runs. He usually gets 7-8 yards on those and today his hesitation led to him getting only 3-4.

The ones I'm thinking of I took as, it's 3rd and long and I can't make the first, so I'm running away to the line of scrimmage, and wait for someone to come open and obviously nobody did.

But I may be misreading the situation.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

For those of you that believe the NFL is rigged and KC is the recipient of the most ****ings should be very thankful there was no call for roughing the passer on the final sack of the game against Wilson. That has been called at least once this year.

Wilson was not in the act of passing when contact was initiated. The "throw" did not occur until he was swung around by the defender. The defender did not land on the "passer". Correctly a non-call.

Your point is well taken however. I was a little suprised there was not a flag for the Chiefs being mean.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by trndobrd

Wilson was not in the act of passing when contact was initiated. The "throw" did not occur until he was swung around by the defender. The defender did not land on the "passer". Correctly a non-call.

Your point is well taken however. I was a little suprised there was not a flag for the Chiefs being mean.

and they should have blown it dead before Jones had a chance to sling 'em...

[ChiefsFan63]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

and they should have blown it dead before Jones had a chance to sling 'em...

I agree. That play was over long before the whistle blew. We would have been screaming if he refs failed to blow a play dead and let 15 take that shot.

[oldman]

The ease in scoring that 1st TD may have set the tone for some to ease up a bit. That leads to mistakes and mistakes lead to opponents points. You can rationalize all you want about Denver being up for this game due to a coaching change/embarrassing loss, but I see it as a disturbing trend where we take sad teams too lightly. Denver twice, Houston, Indy, and the Raiders games were fine examples.

[el borracho]

The new guys

Pacheco is my favorite addition this year. Love seeing him get some receptions. Would love to see him get some of the same passes McKinnon gets, especially near the goal line. Would also love to see Pacheco get some of the passes that made Kimble Anders' career. I think Pacheco has the speed, wiggle and hate to house something like that.

Toney is my second favorite addition this year. Can't wait to see what he can do after an offseason in the system.

Has Cook been more involved lately? Only casual observation, but it seems like he is either playing more or doing more than even a few games ago.

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

The ones I'm thinking of I took as, it's 3rd and long and I can't make the first, so I'm running away to the line of scrimmage, and wait for someone to come open and obviously nobody did.

But I may be misreading the situation.

Yeah the first one was 3rd & 10 at our own 20. He hesitated and only got 4 yards. The second one was a 3rd & 10 at our own 25 and he hesitated and only got 2 yards. Either way if he doesn't hesitate maybe he gets the first maybe he doesn't. But if you are gonna hesitate and wait for the D to collapse into your running lane might as well just throw the ball out of bounds at that point instead of running for 2-4 yards and taking a hit.