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Old 01-02-2023, 08:00 PM  
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Why Doesn't The NFL HOF Have More Kickers?
Totally random, and way off topic, but was looking at Butker's stats, and he's been pretty elite for the most part during his career, and it got me looking at other kickers. Man, there are some really good kickers who are not in the HOF. Why?
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Old 01-03-2023, 12:26 PM   #31
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What do you fellas think of Vinateri's chances of being a first ballot hall of famer? No brainer or does it take a couple tries for him to get into the HOF?
Wow, I had no idea that he passed Morten Andersen for the #1 all-time scoring spot. I was about to say that he'll make it in three or four years, but given his longevity and the clutch kicks that he made to support cheating by the patriots, I think he's got a good shot of getting in on the first ballot.
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Old 01-04-2023, 02:24 AM   #32
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They don't want to clean shit off of more kickers busts. **** kickers.
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Old 01-04-2023, 05:52 AM   #33
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And again, since I keep getting misquoted,

I SAID THAT BUTKER COULD GET IN, NOT THAT HE WOULD GET IN.

There's a difference.
Nothing misquoted...You said he "COULD" make it. You also said that he "PROBABLY SHOULD" make it.

There's a difference.
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I have a better question. Why isn't Otis Taylor in the HOF?
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Old 01-04-2023, 10:28 AM   #35
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Wow, I had no idea that he passed Morten Andersen for the #1 all-time scoring spot. I was about to say that he'll make it in three or four years, but given his longevity and the clutch kicks that he made to support cheating by the patriots, I think he's got a good shot of getting in on the first ballot.
I agree, if Vinateri isn't a first ballot HOF'er then Canton somewhat sets the tone for kickers moving forward. There isn't a better career kicking wise in regards to longevity and clutch moments on the biggest stage.
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Nothing misquoted...You said he "COULD" make it. You also said that he "PROBABLY SHOULD" make it.

There's a difference.
probably should is still a significant distance from would or will. He's not a lock, and I never said he was.

What I said was that all he really had to do was keep kicking at his average for the last six years and play for at least 14-16 years total, so 8-10 more years, and he probably should be in the conversation.

He doesn't have to improve in any particular area at all, just keep kicking at his current average, and statistically he'll be right there at the fence.

His only real problem, assuming he stays healthy and doesn't otherwise fall off a cliff somehow, is Justin Tucker. He's likely going to be outshined by Tucker for most of his career, and that might hurt his chances.
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I have a better question. Why isn't Otis Taylor in the HOF?
His numbers aren't sexy enough for modern voters.
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I agree, if Vinateri isn't a first ballot HOF'er then Canton somewhat sets the tone for kickers moving forward. There isn't a better career kicking wise in regards to longevity and clutch moments on the biggest stage.
Unless he was kicking at Arrowhead.
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