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Old 01-21-2023, 04:51 PM  
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Mahomes Injury Updates Thread
Figured it would be more ideal to give this its own thread than the Jaguars gamethread.

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UPDATE 3: Courtesy of King - High Ankle Sprain Confirmed



UPDATE 4: Got asked to add this report from Arrowhead Pride to the OP: https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2023/...chiefs-presser
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:25 AM   #616
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Just a reminder that Mahomes... just from the pocket... would still be the favorite to win the MVP this season.

The Chiefs' two best and most complete games offensively, by far, this season, came against the Bucs and 49ers and featured plans where the Chiefs were clearly accounting for pressure in their game plan and focused on getting the ball out quick, being balanced, and relying on something other than "Well, if it goes bad, Patrick will run around and make magic happen."

Personally, I'm excited to see what the plans look like for that.
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:26 AM   #617
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Mahomes isn't escaping this type of pressure with a high ankle sprain.
Check. It. Down.


They are clearly trying to take away Kelce in the middle of the field. Get McKinnon the ball in space and he’s beating 1v1 most of the time.

Stretch them out. Make them go sideline to sideline.
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:30 AM   #618
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Mahomes isn't escaping this type of pressure with a high ankle sprain.
Calm down… There will be chips and max protections… The ball is coming out quick..
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:31 AM   #619
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Check. It. Down.


They are clearly trying to take away Kelce in the middle of the field. Get McKinnon the ball in space and he’s beating 1v1 most of the time.

Stretch them out. Make them go sideline to sideline.
When is he supposed to check it down? When Hendrickson is in position to bat the ball or strip the ball? Mahomes took the best move available and rushed as fast as he could up the pocket to mitigate Hendrickson being behind him.
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:35 AM   #620
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Hell, you can even see it in the video. If Mahomes goes to throw when McKinnon turns his head Hendrickson's hand is swiping at where Mahomes would be making the arm motion to pass it to him. Strip sack. Game over.
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:36 AM   #621
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:37 AM   #622
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When is he supposed to check it down? When Hendrickson is in position to bat the ball or strip the ball? Mahomes took the best move available and rushed as fast as he could up the pocket to mitigate Hendrickson being behind him.
When Hendrickson is engaged.

Mahomes had the time and space to get the ball out without Hendrickson affecting it.
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:38 AM   #623
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Old 01-25-2023, 10:39 AM   #624
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I don't care what the betting public is doing. The betting public is bad at betting, or books wouldn't stay in business.

What matters is where the "shark" money is going. That can be indicative of something unseen, especially when it is operating opposite of the betting public movement.
True statement. Plus, it's a common myth that Vegas creates odds/spreads/lines based on how they believe the public will bet. That's not true.

The opening odds are the oddsmakers' best guesses as to how the game will play out based on the information they have at the time (including injuries, weather, historical performance, home/away, etc). Lines move after that based partly on money coming in, but it includes other factors.

The fact that the Chiefs STILL opened as the favorite vs the Bengals - and those odds factored in Mahomes' injury - says a lot about the talent on this team and about how well Mahomes played through the injury vs the Jaguars. He led a touchdown drive in a critical moment on a bum ankle.
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When Hendrickson is engaged.

Mahomes had the time and space to get the ball out without Hendrickson affecting it.
Plus it's freaking Patrick Mahomes. Ya know....the guy that once converted a 3rd down on the run left-handed while being wrapped up by Von Miller.
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Right now, the public is betting on the Bengals because they look unstoppable and Mahomes has an injury. It's Wednesday. Wait and see what the line does closer to game time.
The idea Cincy looks unstoppable is hyperbole at its best. They almost lost to Tyler Huntley at home and beat a Buffalo team in a snowstorm that's been in a spiral for a long while.
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Patrick Mahomes Dropback Splits
Overall Grade Rank* Passing Grade Rank*
Straight Drops Wks 1-12 90.3 2nd 87.4 2nd
Straight Drops Wks 13-18 72.6 17th 71.0 16th
Rolls/Scrambles Wks 1-12 86.2 1st 77.9 1st
Rolls/Scrambles Wks 13-18 88.3 2nd 85.6 2nd
*Among passers with at least 25 such dropbacks in each timeframe

The magic clearly hasn’t waned, but something is amiss from the pocket. One might ask why Week 13 was so arbitrarily used as the cutoff in the above table. The answer? That's when Kansas City faced its upcoming conference championship opponent, the Cincinnati Bengals.

Since then, Mahomes has been very ordinary when dropping straight back and throwing from the pocket. The Chiefs' approach appears to have become far more conservative, too. There are struggles at wide receiver, as well as a declining amount of man coverage being played against Kansas City since that Bengals game.

If recent trends hold, there will be many nervous onlookers waiting to see if Mahomes’ injury hampers his seemingly unstoppable improvisational skills. If that is the case, then we will see a battle of two quarterbacks dueling from the pocket. The difference between them? Mahomes has struggled of late from there, while Joe Burrow is currently the best pocket passer the league has to offer.
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Nice post. Great to see an ambulatory Mahomes. He looks like he might be pissed. Maybe he's just hyperfocused on dismantling the 'Gals.
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The idea Cincy looks unstoppable is hyperbole at its best. They almost lost to Tyler Huntley at home and beat a Buffalo team in a snowstorm that's been in a spiral for a long while.
Oh I don't disagree. But the majority of fans don't believe it. They truly think the Bengals are going to trounce the Chiefs.
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The idea Cincy looks unstoppable is hyperbole at its best. They almost lost to Tyler Huntley at home and beat a Buffalo team in a snowstorm that's been in a spiral for a long while.
Buffalo's Defense n the post season vs competent to good qb play has been extremely torchable. Public going to get suckered into this one.
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