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Old 01-31-2023, 06:18 PM  
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3rd/4th and 1 Conversions
A lot was made in Sunday's AFC Championship game about the Chiefs inability to convert in 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1 scenarios. If I remember correctly Romo said the Chiefs are hovering around 50% in conversion percentage in these short yardage situations. The Chiefs are 2nd in the NFL at 48.7% in all 3rd down scenarios which makes it seem bizarre that Mahomes & company are not converting 3rd/4th and short with more regularity.

So I turn to the prolific armchair offensive coordinators of Chiefsplanet to answer these questions:

1. Why do you think the Chiefs struggle in these situations?
2. Any adjustments you would make vs Philly in the Superbowl?
3. Gun to your head, 4th & 1 in the Superbowl, what are you dialing up?
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Old 01-31-2023, 06:20 PM   #2
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Old 01-31-2023, 06:23 PM   #3
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Pitch to Pacheco for an outside run. Pacheco's speed and anger against a lot less congestion.
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Old 01-31-2023, 06:24 PM   #4
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A play that gets lost in the discussion since it happened early was the fourth down touchdown conversion. That was a pivotal play in the game.
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Old 01-31-2023, 06:25 PM   #5
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Pitch to Pacheco for an outside run. Pacheco's speed and anger against a lot less congestion.
The problem is Pacheco seldom seems to be on the field on 3rd and 1. Mckinnon typically gets the nod. I've been yelling for Pacheco more on short yardage.
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Old 01-31-2023, 06:29 PM   #6
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Why don’t we just come out in our normal offense? So many options and it will spread the defense out… Never understood why offenses feel the need to pack all 22 in a little area..
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Old 01-31-2023, 06:34 PM   #7
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Why don’t we just come out in our normal offense? So many options and it will spread the defense out… Never understood why offenses feel the need to pack all 22 in a little area..
I agree with this.

We don’t have to treat short yardage like short yardage.

Shit, just spread everyone out and trust Mahomes to pick it up with his legs and slide if nothing comes open.

You also have a better chance of drawing a flag that way.
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Old 01-31-2023, 06:36 PM   #8
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Pitch to Pacheco for an outside run. Pacheco's speed and anger against a lot less congestion.
personally i hate pitching it in this situation. imo too much potential to go backwards

we should just sneak it. qbs have done it for decades w no ill effects. on fluke accident shouldnt prevent us from running it ever again.
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A play that gets lost in the discussion since it happened early was the fourth down touchdown conversion. That was a pivotal play in the game.
Both TD plays were on 4th down or 3rd down. The 4th down TD gained you 7 points compared to getting 0 points, while the 3rd down TD gained you 4 points compared to getting 3 points. Pretty huge to gain 11 points on those 2 plays. Flip side is they also lost 8 points on Toney's drop and the holding penalty to call back Pacheco's rushing TD.
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Old 01-31-2023, 07:02 PM   #10
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They need to treat 3rd and 1 like 3rd and 8.
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They need to treat 3rd and 1 like 3rd and 8.
Yea the line them up and pound forward simply is not working lets just spread them out and force them to cover every single mother ****er on our team who can possibly get the ball in their hands which on any given play is a lot.
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I sort of cringe when we get first and goal inside the 10 its like...hey man can you put it between the 10 and the 20 yard line for me I really like that zone.

Where is Priest Holmes when you need him?
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3rd/4th down has been an issue all year on both sides of the ball.

Defense is 30th is RZ scoring %, 24th in 4D conv %. Will have to clean that up a bit with the Eagles.
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A lot was made in Sunday's AFC Championship game about the Chiefs inability to convert in 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1 scenarios. If I remember correctly Romo said the Chiefs are hovering around 50% in conversion percentage in these short yardage situations. The Chiefs are 2nd in the NFL at 48.7% in all 3rd down scenarios which makes it seem bizarre that Mahomes & company are not converting 3rd/4th and short with more regularity.

So I turn to the prolific armchair offensive coordinators of Chiefsplanet to answer these questions:

1. Why do you think the Chiefs struggle in these situations?
2. Any adjustments you would make vs Philly in the Superbowl?
3. Gun to your head, 4th & 1 in the Superbowl, what are you dialing up?
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