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Old 02-09-2023, 09:45 AM  
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Say they don't wanna pick up his option and have decided to keep Sweat and Payne and move Young.

Would you send our first this year and a 2nd next year for that?
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Old 02-09-2023, 06:09 PM   #31
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He was good last year and tore his ACL in week 10. Of course he missed time.

He's also 23.
How good was he though? 1.5 sacks in 9 and a half games isn't first round production. It's not like he was George and had to get adjusted to the NFL.
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Old 02-09-2023, 07:26 PM   #32
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Isn't his knee pretty ****ed?
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Old 02-10-2023, 07:52 AM   #33
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How good was he though? 1.5 sacks in 9 and a half games isn't first round production. It's not like he was George and had to get adjusted to the NFL.
Sacks tend to come in bunches.

But maybe he is overrated. But a 3rd for a former first overall guy like this is a good chance to get a real talent.
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Old 02-10-2023, 08:58 AM   #34
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For a third? Yeah, of course, you take a swing on that.

For a first and a second? Oh **** no.
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Old 02-10-2023, 09:10 AM   #35
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For a third? Yeah, of course, you take a swing on that.

For a first and a second? Oh **** no.
I wouldn't give a 2nd.

He's cheap for one year. Oh, and it's a year coming off 2 seasons where he simply couldn't get on the field.

A 3rd? Sure, why not. But other teams will give up higher 3rds than we have so why even ponder it?
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Old 02-10-2023, 09:11 AM   #36
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I wouldn't give a 2nd.

He's cheap for one year. Oh, and it's a year coming off 2 seasons where he simply couldn't get on the field.

A 3rd? Sure, why not. But other teams will give up higher 3rds than we have so why even ponder it?
Our 2nd is the last pick of the round though. You wouldn't give that for him? You'd have him for his tag year as well if you wanted, so if he comes back and is what he was as a rookie and has 12 sacks, you'd gladly pay 17 mil for that.

Then you'd have a franchise tag year or give him a new deal.
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Old 02-10-2023, 09:19 AM   #37
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Our 2nd is the last pick of the round though. You wouldn't give that for him? You'd have him for his tag year as well if you wanted, so if he comes back and is what he was as a rookie and has 12 sacks, you'd gladly pay 17 mil for that.

Then you'd have a franchise tag year or give him a new deal.
Nah.

Because you have to make the call on the 5th year option now and if he comes back and gets hurt again, you're locked into that $17 million on a broke dick since the 5th year option is guaranteed for injury.

There's a reason Washington is waffling on picking it up. They recognize that the value of that option is minimal. So you're giving a 2 for realistically one season of value.
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Nah.

Because you have to make the call on the 5th year option now and if he comes back and gets hurt again, you're locked into that $17 million on a broke dick since the 5th year option is guaranteed for injury.

There's a reason Washington is waffling on picking it up. They recognize that the value of that option is minimal. So you're giving a 2 for realistically one season of value.
It's a risk for sure, but with an end of the 2nd round pick paired with what this front office has been able to do with the rest of the draft, you can paper over it.

We all want a guy across from Karlaftis who's a speed guy. Well, here's a way to get a 23 year old coming off an ACL who could be that.
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The guy tore his ACL in week 10 in 21. Is there another injury I'm missing?
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The guy tore his ACL in week 10 in 21. Is there another injury I'm missing?
No.

He had a pretty bad knee injury though. The ACL wasn't as bad as his patella tendon he also tore. He had to have grafting done and he didn't recover quickly, then there was some swelling and whatnot when he did return. He missed most of the year this year because of it. He should be 100% going into next season but the question really is what his 100% is at this point. Is it 90% of what he was? Or, is it 70% of what he was?

I'd absolutely take the chance but it can't be a 1st or 2nd round pick. Maybe I'd go a conditional 3rd that could turn into a 2nd in 2024 but that would be an absolute maximum.
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No.

He had a pretty bad knee injury though. The ACL wasn't as bad as his patella tendon he also tore. He had to have grafting done and he didn't recover quickly, then there was some swelling and whatnot when he did return. He missed most of the year this year because of it. He should be 100% going into next season but the question really is what his 100% is at this point. Is it 90% of what he was? Or, is it 70% of what he was?

I'd absolutely take the chance but it can't be a 1st or 2nd round pick. Maybe I'd go a conditional 3rd that could turn into a 2nd in 2024 but that would be an absolute maximum.
Ok, yeah, I think I'd do that.

It's definitely a risk. But if he comes back and is what he was, man, you just set up your bookend DE's for...what 4 or 5 years?
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I'm bringing this back up cause **** you guys.

2 years and 22 million for this guy if you traded a pick for him right?
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I'm bringing this back up cause **** you guys.

2 years and 22 million for this guy if you traded a pick for him right?
Yup.

He gives you everything JuJu gives you and more.
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