First Round Targets

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by kccrow

After much study and thought, I'm going to be really bullish about us not having a chance at either Johnston or Hyatt.

And you're going to have to also count on the fact that the highest we can get with this and next year's first is 16. And that might be overvaluing next year's pick slightly. The real spot might be 18. It really depends on how willing a team is just to acquire more draft capital.

I just don't think we can get there without it costing a fortune that I just don't think is worth spending for this team. And that's what I think you'll have to do to net those guys.

Now, if there's a guy there at 21 or later that you want then I think you can get there with a future 2nd and this year's 4th. I don't think Johnston and Hyatt are those guys. Are you willing to chance Jaxon Smith-Njigba at that point? I'm not willing to go up for Addison over just taking Tyler Scott myself.

I think the focus should be on options we can get that can provide a similar impact. I'm fully on board with moving up substantially in the 2nd round by using a future 2nd. You might be able to get as high as 43 but probably no less than 48.

Either way, if you go with the flashy option in round 1 you still need to address RT, DE, and DT in this draft. You can't do that well if you start moving picks in this year's draft on day 2 to go get the flashy option; and, mortgaging future 1's eventually comes back to bite you in the ass.

kccrow and I are higher on Tyler Scott than seemingly the entire universe, but I'm telling you, this guy at 31 will pay out.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

kccrow and I are higher on Tyler Scott than seemingly the entire universe, but I'm telling you, this guy at 31 will pay out.

Isn't he a little small for R1? Would imagine he ends up a slot no? Or am I getting him mixed up?

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Isn't he a little small for R1? Would imagine he ends up a slot no? Or am I getting him mixed up?

Sure he's small -- but he runs a 4.2 and is a hell of a receiver.

Under Andy Reid, he's a Pro Bowler by Year 3, and maybe sooner.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by JPH83

Isn't he a little small for R1? Would imagine he ends up a slot no? Or am I getting him mixed up?

He's like 5'10" or 5'11" and 180-185 so I don't think so. No smaller than Jaylen Waddle, Marquise Brown, or Jahan Dotson and they all went round 1. He also played outside alot for Cincy.

Are you thinking of Tank Dell?

[Shoes]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

kccrow and I are higher on Tyler Scott than seemingly the entire universe, but I'm telling you, this guy at 31 will pay out.

If Tyler Scott is your guy you trade down, absolutely no reason to take him at 31. I like him as a prospect, for a smaller(ish) guy, his athleticism is off the charts and he is freaky strong (600 lbs squat, 16 reps of bench at 225).

I just have a hard time putting Scott ahead of a guy like Josh Downs who was more productive in back to back seasons playing against tougher competition. I think Downs will test similarly to Scott speed wise as well, Downs has some great contested catches on tape also.

I don't hate Scott but I would loathe that pick at 31.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Shoes

If Tyler Scott is your guy you trade down, absolutely no reason to take him at 31. I like him as a prospect, for a smaller(ish) guy, his athleticism is off the charts and he is freaky strong (600 lbs squat, 16 reps of bench at 225).

I just have a hard time putting Scott ahead of a guy like Josh Downs who was more productive in back to back seasons playing against tougher competition. I think Downs will test similarly to Scott speed wise as well, Downs has some great contested catches on tape also.

I don't hate Scott but I would loathe that pick at 31.

I respect your opinion quite a bit. That said, I don't think Downs will test anywhere near what Scott does. Scott was a junior olympian and will most likely run in the mid-4.2s. His acceleration and top-end are insane. There's a better-than-not chance he tests faster than Tyreek. Downs looks really similar to a guy we already have on the roster, to be honest. I think Flowers is quicker. Scott is absolutely quicker. Downs was a feature target they manufactured getting the ball. Scott put up 100 less yards on 40 less receptions. I just think when Reid sees the tape of this kid, that big brain of his is already going to be scheming what he can do with this kid.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by Shoes

If Tyler Scott is your guy you trade down, absolutely no reason to take him at 31. I like him as a prospect, for a smaller(ish) guy, his athleticism is off the charts and he is freaky strong (600 lbs squat, 16 reps of bench at 225).

I just have a hard time putting Scott ahead of a guy like Josh Downs who was more productive in back to back seasons playing against tougher competition. I think Downs will test similarly to Scott speed wise as well, Downs has some great contested catches on tape also.

I don't hate Scott but I would loathe that pick at 31.

I'm with you. If kccrow is correct on the speed of Scott it'll be interesting, I'm not sure I saw Tyreek speed but stand to be corrected. I just thought Downs looks way shiftier. He's probably a top slot only but is Scott any more? Downs absolutely puts people in blenders.